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My Thoughts on How Barbara Became Oracle.
I’ve seen people talk about this change and I wanted to join in since I have some thoughts too.
For the most part, I’m okay with the change the writers did. Young Justice is one of many DC universes so anything can happen. I applaud the writers for trying something new.
Though, I still have some problems with the change. It was pretty weird that Barbara automatically assumed Orphan never killed anyone before they met. I think the writers were trying to outright tell us that Cassandra’s story is widely different. I also would’ve preferred if Orphan made that decision not to kill or killing is bad on her own like what happened when she and her mother fought in episode 8.
I read Cassandra’s comic origins on her Wikipedia page and prefer how she decided to be a hero than YJ’s version.
Incase anyone is wondering about my thoughts on how Barbara became Oracle in the Killing Joke, I’m okay with this version. There are many people who said they didn’t like it because they believe Barbara was a consequence of Joker wanting to drive Gordon crazy. I can see where they are coming from but that was not my perspective.
From how I see it, what happened to Barbara was a devastating way to show the audience that heroes can face as much pain and tragedy in their civilian lives as them being superheroes. And that terrible things can indirectly happen to you.
I hope you liked my rant! Thanks for reading!
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Random Duke Thomas Headcannons pt 4
Insired by @overcookedfool 's headcannon about Cass and Duke being banned from hide and seek, Bruce uses their hiding skills to train the other batfamily members.
The training involves Duke and Cass hiding around Gotham and the others having to find them before sun up (for Cass) or sun down (for Duke). So that everyone can still get their work done, this only happens once a week.
If someone finds them in time, they can get a trophy from the batcave, if Duke or Cass remain unfound, they get the same deal.
Dick gets them to use carnival rules so winning a lot of little trophies can get you a big one. After a few months of the training exercise Duke and Cass put their trophies together to offically own the dinosaur.
I’m currently reading Steph’s run as Batgirl, and this moment with Damian is just too much…
So Steph’s talking to this guy, but she turns around…
And there’s Damian
Don't we all love some chaotic siblings shenanigans at the gala?
Ah! The annual Wayne gala...
Every year, Bruce Wayne attempts to throw a normal gala.
You, know. The kind every other billionaire throws.
But somehow
Somehow
Something weird happens.
Whether Damian lets Batcow into the ballroom, or Steph sets off the sprinkler system, or (God forbid) Jason mixes laxatives into the cake; something always goes wrong.
And. It. Is. Always. His. Kids'. Fault.
It's become a running joke in the media!
"The Wayne Kids at it again!!! Read their latest gala antics below!"
Bruce just wants to jump into that bottomless pit in the Batcave...
Why WHY are his... lovely children like this? Can't they just give him some peace.
Of course not, Dick is sitting on the chandelier and everyone is staring.
Dick waves at him.
He can only stare blankly until Tim comes over and hands him a cup of coffee, Tim holding one himself.
Not really a typical gala drink, but he deserves it. Takes a big drink and almost spits it out. He give Tim and incredulous look.
The coffee is spiked.
He can't tell if it has monster, whisky, or a fucking 5 hour energy in it though.
Tim just shrugs and takes the cup back.
"More for me"
Cass walks over and gives him a pity pat on the shoulder.
God help him.
He loves these kids.
But God help him...
My guilt will not purify me.
(Batgirl 2000 permanently altered my brain chemistry)
I saw in one of the reblogs of my post with Makeup Artist Damian that someone offer me their soul for seeing Dami painting Steph and Cass nails-
WELL, it will be half soul, because as much as I loved the idea, i wanted the body-painting too, specially for Cass, to make something pretty out of her scars :DD
Gotham city is just the reverse Disneyland. Instead of all of your dreams coming true it's all of your nightmares coming true.
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StephCass is canon the way the People have responded to official UNO rules
The thing my mind keeps going back to is when Steph is at the very start of her Robin training... And Bruce and Pennyworth just give her one of Tim's uniforms to train in.
And it's fucking uncomfortable for her because she is a physically different person. She can't move in the damn thing without something tearing, her getting a wedgie, or her getting winded because her boobs are so compressed! And yet, Bruce and Pennyworth make such a big deal about how they guess they'll have to get her a uniform that fits.
Even getting part of the cave sectioned off so that she can change in private is shown as something she feels she had to earn.
It was so frustrating to read that whole damn arc.
I'm not going to claim Steph was perfect or that every decision she made was right, but it was so clear that she wasn't being supported like she should have been.
Every so often, DC is reminded by Steph fans that War Games is a thing that happened and that its many injustices against her and her fans still need to be addressed and every so often, DC responds with a comic that says "Bruce was right to manipulate and fire her and she deserved to be tortured and killed"
With WFA sister-coding Steph and Cass, I started thinking about how to get some silver linings out of the decision. So, here are some potential plots or story elements that could be fun/saucy/interesting to play with.
1.) Steph comes out as asexual. Between having a baby and dating Tim, Steph realizes that she's been pursuing physical relationships because of social expectations. She's a spunky, outgoing blonde tough girl; people just assume. She just assumed.
This leads to so many jokes. So many.
"Yeah, Tim and I dated and we had a good time, but in the end I turned him off girls and he turned me off entirely"
"I flatlined briefly and it restored me to factory settings"
Idk Steph would have more quips. She'd have all the quips.
2) Cass is secretly the true Wayne Womanizer. She's not here for a long time, she's here for a good time, and as long as everyone understands that she will play the field. The only reason no one knows that she's debauched every willing heiress in Gotham is because she's too good to get caught and no one would believe it.
Cassandra Wayne is a Legend among closeted debutantes and socialites whose parents have "arrangements" made in regards to marriages. She's the muse of so much modern sapphic poetry, the kind that only hints at her identity. She is the favorite friend to every ambassador's interested daughter. Forget the headlines about Brucie Wayne spending the night with a Russian ballet troupe, Cass will tour with them and no one will even guess what's really going on.
Fandom treats her like a sexless child figure or defaults her to Steph's side. I say let her sneak into the manor at 3am with her shoes off, whispering about entering her slut era.
3) If Steph and Cass are not dating each other, they could each be dating a new or underused character and we could have another Bernard-style steal-your-ship. We might be on the cusp of discovering a really fun pairing or character!
4) Cass and Prudence Wood have an assassin-angsty hate-sex relationship. This one's just for me because it makes me giggle. People meme about Tim and Cass looking alike, Pru called Tim hot once, Pru is now a double??? Triple???? Quadruple??? Agent between Ra's and Tim.
There is just something cute about imagining terrifying quiet Cass stalking after the loudmouth Pru's British cussing. No killing! Because Cass is here to ruin your fun and watch you sleep!
I tried the TikTok AI challenge with DC characters pt 2
It’s finally released!
And it’s really kool!
They have a Cassandra Cain Multiverse figure up for pre-order!
It’s so confusing that this pre-order goes up just 4 days after the character’s birthday.
They got that close and said “nah”. Just seems like a missed opportunity.
Kind of sad she doesn’t come with a maskless interchangeable head sculpt, granted she’s a cutie with or without the mask.
inaccurate Batfam quotes #34
Batfam playing Among Us
Dick: Super Sus, he follows people and disappears at random, every time he's imposter he vent camps. He really likes the vents.
Jason: Kills three or more people every round but somehow no one sees him do it. Kill sprees are his favorite.
Tim: Suspicous of everything and everyone, even if he's the imposter. always has crazy assumptions that somehow are right. Only likes to do tasks if he's alone in a room. Has a kill spree rivalry with Jason. (plays with Kon, Bart and Cass most of the time tho)
Damian: Has somehow perfected winning the game by strategising his kills. Always does his evil laugh and is super pouty when Imposters target him first. Has the best behind the scene commentary, along with Babs.
Babs: Always cracking jokes and says "oop" a lot. Somehow is always the one to find the body. Lord have mercy when she's the imposter.
Steph: Very hesitant to kill when she's imposter. Unless she's mad at someone. Then she's ruthless. most likely to kill someone in front of other people on accident.
Cass: Never talks durring discussions. No one ever suspects her. She gets imposter 80% of the time. And she's scarily good at it. Her and Dami have a competition to kills in every game. Dami started it, she doesn't even try to play his game. She's just that good.
Bruce: No idea how the Hell to play. Forgets to mute himself when he's saying stuff like "Oh I'm imposter". Tasks? What tasks? He just follows whoever he thinks he can trust. Most of the time he picks the right person to tail cause they never kill him. Jason targets him first every time.
inaccurate Batfam quotes #29
✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟBatfam Twitter, Otherwise known as: Idiots with Internet PART 3!The amazing Women have joined the chat
Babs♛♥ 🗸 @ Bablicious
Have to get my nails redone after I punch this guy for making a move on my sis. Brb
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Cass cain 🗸 @ BetterinBlack
rolls up sleeves I got this
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Harper💥👽 🗸 @ GothamsLocalBadass
@ FlyingGraysonJr Hold my earrings
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Dick GAYson 🗸 @ FlyingGraysonJr
Girl, you know I got u.
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Babs♛♥ 🗸 @ Bablicious
God, being this awesome is exausting...
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Harper💥👽 🗸 @ GothamsLocalBadass
I'll hold the mantle while you take a break. Go do your nerd stuff
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Cass cain 🗸 @ BetterinBlack
Still don't understand Twitter but learning
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Steph💅 🗸 @ Stephinanutshell
Why is the little demon brat so awful? What did I ever do to you?!
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Damian Wayne 🗸 @ TheBloodSon
Say it to my face, Brown.
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Steph💅 🗸 @ Stephinanutshell
I will when you reach eye-level, gremlin.
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Cass Sandsmark 🗸 @ StrongerThanYourMans
anotherunofficialBruceWayneadoption
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Steph💅 🗸 @ Stephinanutshell
Welcome to the family @ StrongerThanYourMans
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Harper💥👽 🗸 @ GothamsLocalBadass
Looks like we snagged another one. @ zombierebellion owes me five bucks
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Jay Son 🗸 @ zombierebellion
Damn it, Bruce! I bet on Billy next
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Dick GAYson 🗸 @ FlyingGraysonJr
I had my money on Conner.
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Tim Drake 🗸 @ sleepwhenimdead
No way. It was gonna be Duke.
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Cass cain 🗸 @ BetterinBlack
Duke already family?
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Babs♛♥ 🗸 @ Bablicious
@ sleepwhenimdead When was the last time you slept, Timmy?
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Jay Son 🗸 @ zombierebellion
I'll get the sedatives...
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I feel like every time I draw my art style changes just a smidge but anyways!!! Thank y’all so much for all the love, have some Cass and Duke cause they are very underrated!
Bruce saves people because a long time ago on the worst night of his life, no one was there to save him. Cassandra stops killers because a long time ago on the worst night of her life, no one was there to stop her.
What a happy family! Hm… that lamp looks a bit weird. What’s that on your hand Tim?
👉🔥
They're all so happy 🙂
fun fact: one of my most favorite things in the world is Scooby Doo. you know what else is a group of 5 detectives that can and will thwart billionaires? I had to, you understand
Batgirls: After Patrol 🖊🖤
EVERY SINGLE DETAIL OF THIS IS PERFECT. GOTHAM CROSSING, I AM CHOOSING TO BELIEVE SHE MODDED HER GAME IN CANON AND LEGIT PLAYS IT THAT WAY STEPHCASS VIDEO OF PURE CUTENESS. DO IT FOR HER” WITH THE MOST ADORABLE PICTURES OF HALEY “….AND FOR HIM” WITH DICK BEING A RIDICULOUSLY GOOD LOOKING NERD AND ALSO CLEARLY #2 ON THIS LIST OF PRIORITIES BATTUBE BABS’ FACE AND MESSY PONYTAIL AS SHE WORKS ON HER PET ROBOT EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IS A DIRECT SHOT OF SEROTONIN TO MY BRAIN
When your sidekicks grow up to be real heroes...
One of the funniest things about early Batgirl Cass is that everyone around her is just like wow she's so silent and competent and deadly I can't imagine what it's like to be so cool and then you look at Cass's POV and as well as being suicidal and depressed she's so overstimulated and running on constant anxiety. Like sure she's quiet and spooky but that's because she doesn't know what to say but she knows if everyone in this room doesn't walk out alive she's going to kill herself so you WILL listen to her or she'll take your entire gang of 50 men down in 10 seconds. Batman's like "Look at that discipline she took them down and moved right on to the next gang the grind never stops isn't that right Cassie?" And meanwhile Cass's brain is blaring constant alarms because there are 50 people in the city in potentially fatal danger right this second and she has to save every single one even if it means no food or sleep until she's done. Barbara keeps suggesting self help audiobooks but Cass doesn't have time for that there are people that could be in trouble and if even a single one of them dies it is Cass's fault for not being good enough and she's a horrible person who will burn in hell. This is a totally rational way to live why is everyone but Bruce so confused by it?
at some point, jason and stephanie have tricked the entire batfamily into believing that they’ve swapped bodies, like in the freaky friday movie.
The Council of Concerned Cousins.
CoCC, if you will.
FIC: Harry Potter and the Great Custody Battle by dajgen (ao3)
from up-down, left-right: peter - jason, dick - tim, damian - cass
i'm actually obsessed with this fic, and when the author updated with the last chapter, my hand got possessed. so... here i am *confetti*
i personally love the fact that CoCC was the acronym, and the one to lead the discussions was dick. perfection fr.
i, initially, had more of this done, but the file got corrupted for some reason so i had to remake most of it. i'm still working on cass and damian, not to mention cleaning up a bit more and shading. i'll post an update when i do! hope ya enjoyed, be sure to got read the fic (it's really good), and fingers crossed the author updates again soon!