One Hell Of An Unpopular Opinion #08

One Hell of an Unpopular Opinion #08

Two out of the three Hispanic characters in Hazbin Hotel are deeply rooted damaging stereotypes within Spanish & Latin American cultures and the one that isn't a blatant stereotype is misused. ___________

With Spanish Heritage Month right around the corner and being a Latina myself, I think it's more than fair for me to give my thoughts on the Latinos (in Spanish, it doesn't matter if there's only one guy in a primarily female group, you have to put Latinos) in HH. Let's start off with the least offensive out of the group, Carmilla Carmine.

One Hell Of An Unpopular Opinion #08

We're introduced to her in Scrambled Eggs which is Episode #03 of HH. She invited each of the Overlords to a meeting to speak about how brutal this year's Extermination was and what they could do going forward. During said meeting, Velvette throws the head of a decapitated Exorcist on the table for her to try and take control of the conversation. Things before and during the song Respectless (why this song wasn't called Disrespect or Diss-respect is something I'll never understand) escalate as Velvette figures out that Carmilla is the one behind the dead Exorcist based on her body language and when she asks, "You know why this angel's headless? Do you have a disclosure?" Carmilla immediately ends the meeting thereafter, confirming her suspicions were correct. People have already criticized the mystery of the dead Exorcist being solved way too soon, though I haven't seen as many people criticize why the other Overlords didn't look or immediately question Carmilla the SECOND that Exorcist's head rolled on the table? Like, you guys know that she's Hell's top ANGELIC arms dealer, why wouldn't any of you suspect her from the start? Even if she had ended up being a red herring, I would've seen it as the Overlords using the process of elimination and common sense cause why wouldn't the ANGELIC arms dealer kill an Exorcist??? In any case, the reason behind Carmilla killing the Exorcist was to protect her daughters and thus someone we should sympathize with. Except that, we don't know anything about her daughters and we still don't know her. So why should I care? I have no attachment and therefore no proper reason to care for a character I JUST met. And don't get me started on her daughters as they're nothing more than minor plot devices who could've been replaced by Vaggie. Speaking of which...

One Hell Of An Unpopular Opinion #08

Vaggie is based on two harmful Latina tropes and one harmful LGBTQ+ trope with these being the "Feisty" Latina, the Crazed Latina, and the Man Hating Lesbian. Whenever the "feisty" Latina is done in media, she's almost never actually feisty but rather plain bitchy. The word feisty is used because the show runners tend to want the audience to like this character as, to them, she's (somehow), "a woman who knows what she wants and how to take charge." We see this several times when Vaggie isn't interacting with Charlie though I would say the times that this backfired the most was in Episode #01 and Episode #04. Back in Episode #01 when Vaggie was working on the hotel's commercial she wants Alastor to help out with it. Mind you, she previously slandered the advertisement he had originally made for the hotel so I don't know why she wants his help with making a new one in the first place but nonetheless Alastor basically says, "Yeah. No. I'm not gonna help you cause you already know I hate modern media and you clearly didn't like what I had planned so figure it out." Now, instead of ending the conversation and leaving the man who wants no part in this alone, she holds up the camera that she has in her hands and not only films him but actively mocks him too. This isn't a "bold move" like I've seen people claim it to be, it was simply moronic since she already knew he was an Overlord that's killed and fought people over MINOR INCONVENIENCES. After this the two strike a deal which is another plain stupid move on Vaggie's part as that's only going to come back and bite her in the ass later on in the series. Meanwhile, in Episode #04, she told Husk to go after Angel Dust even though... A.) Going after the residents isn't in his job description. B.) If ANYONE is going after the residents it should probably be THE MANAGER since it's their job to make sure that everything between the staff AND customers is good. C.) She KNOWS that Husk has been sexually and physically harassed by Angel in the past as not only has she SEEN it but she's TOLD Angel to stop harassing the staff. I guess the safety of your co-workers doesn't matter though if Charlie's sad. D.) Lastly, I swear that there was a rule that was established early on about NOT FORCING RESIDENTS TO STAY AT THE HOTEL. Like, am I tripping or did the series retcon that super fast??? Anyway, the point is that the series has Vaggie acting like a snide bitch when she's interacting with anyone other than Charlie. This "feisty" Latina stereotype goes hand in hand with the crazed Latina. The crazed Latina trope is when a Latina will throw hands for the dumbest of reasons or for little to no reason at all. It makes it seem that Latina's are overly aggressive which is how the series portrays Vaggie. She's always seen wielding an angelic spear 24/7 knowing that she can kill any resident or staff member who steps out of line with her, constantly seen threatening to hurt others with it. Out of the two racial stereotypes this one has been called out the most as it's paired with the man hating Lesbian trope because every time Vaggie's threatened to kill someone with said angelic spear, it has ALWAYS been a MALE character. Okay, now it's time to end this off by addressing the elephant in the room that is Valentino.

One Hell Of An Unpopular Opinion #08

Oh, God. Where do I start with this failure of a character? I suppose, I'll start with the Casanova aka the Enticing Latin Lover archetype. This involves a strong suave man who's tall, dark (or I guess light purple in Val's case), and handsome (I wouldn't call him that but that's how he's portrayed in the series) as well as being full of ulterior motives! He's the sultry hypersexual Hispanic seducer that everybody can't seem to get enough of. I wouldn't have nearly as much of an issue with this as he's the Overlord of Lust but with how the stans either absolve him of or make LIGHT of his crimes solely because they think how he looks, sounds, and acts is hot (brother eugh), with the show runners encouraging stuff like that on social media (yes, I'm referring to when people were comparing Val's personality to Karen Smith from Mean Girls with Viv agreeing with it cause he's so dumb), his sole purpose is being a plot device for Angel Dust and being fetish fuel. Which really bothers me considering that a good chunk of Hazbin Hotel stans are LITERAL CHILDREN! Continuing on, we have ill tempered and idiotic Machismo/Macho Man. The show can't seem to make up its mind whether or not they want us to take Valentino seriously or not. I get what they're trying to do by making Val intimidating and cunning at one point and a "charming" himbo the next but it's done in such a jarring way that could've been easily fixed had they shown him being more creepy towards lower class demons and Sinners but have him be "charming" towards Overlords and other members of Hell's high society. Like in the show, he's openly verbally violent towards Angel Dust while Charlie is in his presence (I also hate the fact that show Charlie didn't actually do anything when she noticed that Val had hit Angel cause pilot Charlie would've thrown hands regardless of what Angel told her) and doesn't give a flying fuck when she's turning into her demon form RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM! Then there's the fact that the Hellaverse doesn't take violence seriously until it HAS to and then these moments can come across as unintentionally comedic. Case and point, when I initially saw Valentino backhand Angel Dust in Episode #04, I AUDIBLY LAUGHED. That shit SHOULD NOT have been nearly as funny as it was! It was meant to be a serious moment where the show segues into how Angel is abused at his job but there I was laughing my ass off in my room for a solid thirty seconds before I was able to regain my composure. Next up is point three about the Cholo or gangster archetype in which a Latino will wear stylish street wear clothes (similar to the outfit Val wears in Episode #04) and commit violent crimes. My previous points indirectly had me go into depth about the violent crimes part so let's move onto point four which is Val being a drug addict and drug maker. Latin characters (specifically men) have been depicted as drug dealers and druggies since AT LEAST the 1970s (it only makes it worse that Valentino supposedly died in this time period.) It's been heavily implied that the smoke from his cigarettes acts as an aphrodisiac which is why he blows it in other peoples faces so much. We see him smoking cigarettes (which contain so much God damn chemicals in them but especially nicotine) throughout the show like its nothing meaning he's gotta have a high nicotine intake (logically, he would've gotten lung cancer by now.) The last racial stereotype that they gave him is the raging alcoholic and I know that anyone can become a raging alcoholic however alcoholism is actually a very common problem among Latinos as more than 33% of them suffer from issues related to an alcohol dependency. It's an ongoing problem that many Hispanics face and seeing how Val is already shown to be a violent individual WITHOUT alcohol in his system, that's only going to make him worse and we saw that in Episode #02 when Val got more irritable and threw his drink in Vox's direction upon knowing Angel Dust was staying at the HH.

___________ People of the jury, I rest my case and I hope you all liked reading my thoughts and I'll see you later!

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8 months ago

HH Rewrite Poll #02

Alright everyone, I need your assistance again to help me decide what to do. In the first poll you helped me rename Charlie to Lavanya with Anya as her nickname but this time I need help for which character to write about. I didn't list any of the Overlords since the first character sheet I did was about an Overlord and Lavanya is demon royalty so as a way to balance that out the next two character sheets I do will either be about two lower class Sinners or one lower class Sinner and a Hellborn. Regardless, I can't wait to see who you guys pick!


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3 months ago

HH & HB Related Post

Well, I didn't think that I would be making one of these again yet but here we are. Believe it or not a lot has happened since I made my last post in November of 2024 saying that rewriting HH or HB isn't worth it anymore but now that I've finally caught up on the rest of season #02 of HB, I've decided to redact that post I made back in early November of last year because the writers of Spindlehorse truly have proved to me that most of them never had a real grasp of media literacy to begin with. Now, I don't see myself as some brilliant writer who's on her way to becoming the next Shakespeare or some other arrogant BS like that but I know that without a single doubt in my mind, that I can write something better than the entirety of Helluva Boss Season #02 as well as everything I've seen from Hazbin Hotel. So I've decided that I will go back to rewriting HH & HB because I've realized that if the writers and creator at Spindlehorse can make their own characters look unrecognizable and derail who they were originally supposed to be/once were, that I have nothing to worry about as the worse that I'll be able to do is to make some lame ass fanfic to a show that already feels like an even worse fanfic of itself. TLDR: If Vivziepop and Spindlehorse can manage to make their own characters and narrative a million times worse then I'll just have to find a way to make it slightly better via rewrites.


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8 months ago

To quote pilot Moxxie, "Excuse me, WHAT!?" I'm sorry, what do you mean CENTIPEDE!? He has this whole spider motif with all of his constant webs and she's saying he was supposed to be a centipede!? What reverse gymnastics is Viv trying to do here??? While I'm not exactly happy at the thought of Mammon being another spider character, that makes way more sense than him being a god damn centipede!

Okay, So I Just Learned That Mammon's Full Demon Form Is Based On A Centipede... A Centipede.... A Centipede.

Okay, so I just learned that Mammon's full demon form is based on a centipede... A centipede.... A centipede.

Okay, So I Just Learned That Mammon's Full Demon Form Is Based On A Centipede... A Centipede.... A Centipede.

If he was suppose to be a centipede, why doesn't he have a long, multisegmented body? Why the web motive in the theme park? Jesus Christ Vi' is just pulling shit outa her ass again.


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8 months ago

HH Rewrite Related Post #01

Not too long ago I reblogged a post that involved some of the background characters in Hazbin Hotel because there's a few that I'd like to make into actual characters as they have potential to be something cool. Well, I finished the key information for what I came up with for the Siren Overlord and I'd like to share it! ________ [APPEARANCE]

HH Rewrite Related Post #01

[CURRENT NAME] πŸž‚ SCYLLA. πŸž‚ She hadn't chosen a new name for herself until after she had been in Hell for about 4 years as that's when she became an Overlord.

[FORMER NAME] πŸž‚ TANASHIRI DATUMOLOK. πŸž‚ Her first name means Sacred Lotus while her surname essentially means Natural Born Leader.

[D.O.B + D.O.D] πŸž‚ BORN JUNE 27TH, 1720. πŸž‚ DIED AUGUST 27TH, 1756. [AGE] πŸž‚ BIOLOGICALLY 36. πŸž‚ CHRONOLOGICALLY 304.

[GENDER & SEX] πŸž‚ FEMALE.

[ETHNICITY & NATIONALITY] πŸž‚ A FILIPINA WHO LIVED IN THE PHILIPPINES. πŸž‚ She never left the motherland until her passing forced her to.

[SOCIAL STATUS] πŸž‚ OVERLORD. πŸž‚ I'm still having her be a current Overlord in my rewrite cause I'm a sucker for her design. [OVERLORD SYMBOL/SIGNAL] πŸž‚ A LOTUS FLOWER. πŸž‚ This is both a reference to her original name along with being another reference to the Odyssey.

[CRIMES COMMITTED IN LIFE FROM LEAST OFFENSIVE TO MOST OFFENSIVE] πŸž‚ THEFT. πŸž‚ B&E (Breaking and Entering.) πŸž‚ TRAFFICKING OF ILLEGAL & STOLEN GOODS (Specifically treasures belonging to rich or wealthy conquistadors.) πŸž‚ESPIONAGE. πŸž‚ AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. πŸž‚ KIDNAPPING. πŸž‚ TORTURE. πŸž‚ MURDER. [SINS COMMITTED IN LIFE FROM LEAST TO GREATEST] πŸž‚ PRIDE πŸž‚ GREED πŸž‚ WRATH πŸž‚ ENVY [OVERLORD PROFESSION/THEME] πŸž‚ PRIDE'S #01 KILLING BUSINESS. πŸž‚ Ranging from run of the mill hitmen to top tier assassins, Scylla's got a wide selection of killers ready to get their hands dirty instead of yours! As long as the price is right (and you actually have the money), simply provide the target's name, time, and location so your killer knows when and where to be. And if you have something sick and twisted in mind, you can customize how your killer handles the process whether it be a specific murder plan to follow through or a more devious torture method before your target breathes their final breath! However, keep in mind that customization does cost extra.

[HOW SHE SECURED HER CONTRACTS] πŸž‚ PRIMARILY DUE TO DESPERATION. πŸž‚ Unlike many Overlords who fool demons into signing away their souls with false promises or clever wordplay, the demons that go to Scylla tend do so out of necessity. The majority of her vast catalog of killers were once demons who were either jobless or homeless. With nowhere else to go, they turned to her as a last resort to, financially, get their lives back on track. Her soul contracts offer good perks to the contractor as they get free healthcare should they get injured on the job, if they're homeless when signing their contract they're able to live in company's apartment complex until they get back on their feet, contractors only work four days out of the week, receive a bi-weekly income, etc.

[TERRITORY NAME] πŸž‚ ANG LUNGSOD NG SALUNGOS. πŸž‚ English Translation = The City of Urchins.

[CORE PERSONALITY TRAITS] πŸž‚ ADEPT. πŸž‚ ALERT. πŸž‚ AMBITIOUS (I feel like this is just a mandatory trait in order for a demon to become an Overlord.) πŸž‚ ANTIPATHETIC. πŸž‚ DARING. πŸž‚ DILIGENT. πŸž‚ PERSPICACIOUS. πŸž‚ RECLUSIVE. πŸž‚ RESOURCEFUL. πŸž‚ SELFISH. πŸž‚ SLY. πŸž‚ TENACIOUS. πŸž‚ THANKFUL. [RELATIONS TO OTHER OVERLORDS] πŸž‚ BARELY ANY. πŸž‚ She has little to no relations to any of the current Overlords on account of only appearing for mandatory/urgent meetings; the last of which happened back in The Great Depression. The Overlord she knows of and has spoken to the most is Zestial as the old(er) bastard has somehow managed to stick around. She's spoken to Rosie twice and has spoken to Alastor all of one time. What she knows about the current Overlords is through social media and whatever intel Zestial has to offer her but other than that she doesn't know them anywhere near on a personal level and vice versa which is exactly how she wants things to be.

________ I had a lot of fun creating Scylla's character (minus her design of course that credit goes to and belongs to Spindlehorse) sheet and I can't wait to share more stuff like this in the future! Thank you for reading and bye for now everyone!


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9 months ago

I wish I could make this up but I literally didn't notice that Vassago (parrot dude) was there until you pointed it out because he blends into the background so much.

Back to that HB pride parade art, I just realized something….

Where the fuck is Vortex? You know Bee’s boyfriend. If Millie is there as an ally, why is Vortex doing the same for his girlfriend?

Why am I surprised that Viv’s only Black character (who is not whitewashed) gets the sidelined but Chaz’s naked ass, Stella’s creepy bootleg Elsa brother, and a character that has not even appeared yet (that red bird I do not care to remember his name) are there.


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9 months ago

I agree, we should let the chef continue cooking up a five star meal.

HAZBIN REDESIGN [WIPS]
HAZBIN REDESIGN [WIPS]
HAZBIN REDESIGN [WIPS]

HAZBIN REDESIGN [WIPS]

YALL I PROMISE IM COOKING, we do a bit of design tweaking.

I wanna talk about them so badly!! BUT I CANT CRAFT MY REWRITE, HEADCANNONS AND LORE STUFF TILL IM DONE EM!!

I hate designing Angel and I’m not even done yet 😭

Feel free to ask me stuff about them cuz it’ll probs help me cook stuff up for em while getting out what I wanna say!


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9 months ago

Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss Rewrite Ideas #01

I truly believe that both shows have a lot of untapped potential that we'll unfortunately never get to see thanks to Viv refusing to take criticism and the fact that her writers are all yes men. However, that doesn't mean I can't give out rewrite ideas like they're candy to those who wish to tap into either show's said potential. With that being said, here are some rewrite ideas that you could use for Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss! ______ #01.) Have Mrs. Mayberry become one of the residents of the Hazbin Hotel. I promise you, this one writes itself. #02.) Have Glitz & Glam be Fizz's rival co-workers to parallel his time in the circus when he worked with the Buckzo twins who acted more like a family to him. #03.) Write some new workers for the Hazbin Hotel since they're still severely understaffed. You could make these new employees a Hellborn, a Sinner, an Overlord, or Goetia royalty if you wanted too. The possibilities for this one are endless! #04.) Let Heaven contrast with Hell based on how they operate. For example, in my rewrite for the Hellaverse, Heaven doesn't use currency at all. It quite literally doesn't exist up there. Instead, they use the Bartering System as they view it to be the most fair exchange of goods and services. #05.) Have there be a character who doesn't belong in Hell but got sent there anyway for whatever reason. I'd recommend using Valoris (my take on renaming Vaggie) if you don't mind keeping her as a fallen angel or using her original Sinner backstory however I feel like AmΓ©lie (I renamed Emily solely because her name is so common. It's not bad but you can tell that there was barely any thought put into it either.) could work just as well since she'd be a fallen Seraph. #06.) Make Lucifer and Stolas evil as they were originally intended to be before Viv scrapped the idea in favor of something worse. Stolitz is a toxic ship no matter how much damage control and retconning Helluva Boss tries to do and when initially asked about how Lucifer would act later in the series on an old livestream, Viv originally wanted to have his character be on par with that of Willy Wonka so do with that information what you will. #07.) Allow for Charlie's, "Anyone can be redeemed," mentality to constantly be challenged by those around her. Don't be afraid to have her be in the wrong because we all know that not everyone can be redeemed. Some people (Valentino) truly aren't deserving of it and others won't be accepting to change. You can lead a horse to water all you want but the horse has to decide to drink it. #08.) Create a proper foil ship for Fallen Star (I hate using the ship name Chaggie) cause if even Stolitz can have one in the form of Fizzmodeus then Fallen Star should have one too. Most people opt to use Emilute but I'm a damn GuitarSpear shipper so I opted for a crossover ship that has Emily and another character from Helluva Boss instead. Listen, if a rare pair and joke ship like CherriSnake can become canon over a ship like Sir Pentious x Rosie that actually makes sense when you consider they're from similar time periods, then a crossover ship being in my AU rewrite is the least of my problems.

Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss Rewrite Ideas #01

For context, here's a screenshot for one of the HH mockup episodes before Viv and her team decided to scrap it. Like the majority of the HH mockup episodes. ______ Well, that's all I've got for now so happy writing and good luck!


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8 months ago

HH Rewrite Related Post #03

I've finally finished Lavanya's (renamed Charlie) key information for her character sheet! And with it comes a bit of lore for what I have in store. __________ [FULL NAME & NICKNAME] πŸž‚ LAVANYA MORNINGSTAR. πŸž‚ PREFERS TO BE CALLED ANYA. πŸž‚ With her first name meaning beauty and grace, Lucifer & Lilith thought it was the perfect name to give to their little princess. [D.O.B] πŸž‚ BORN DECEMBER 31ST, 2002. πŸž‚ Anya can't help but see her birthday as a bad omen due to having been born on the last day of the year when Hell's annual Extermination takes place. She'll put on a smile for her parents when in their presence but otherwise she'll be sulking in her room, silently wishing for the day to be over.

[AGE] πŸž‚ BIOLOGICALLY 22. [SPECIES] πŸž‚ HALF BAPHOMET DEMON (OTHER HALF UNKNOWN.)

[GENDER & SEX] πŸž‚ FEMALE.

[SEXUALITY] πŸž‚ BISEXUAL.

[SOCIAL STATUS] πŸž‚ PRINCESS OF HELL.

[ROYAL EMBLEM] πŸž‚ THE FORBIDDEN APPLE OF KNOWLEDGE. [IMMEDIATE FAMILY] πŸž‚ LILITH MORNINGSTAR = MOM. πŸž‚ LUCIFER MORNINGSTAR = DAD.

[EXTENDED FAMILY] πŸž‚ 1 GRANDFATHER. πŸž‚ 1 HALF UNCLE. πŸž‚ 5 UNCLES & 3 AUNTS. πŸž‚ 2 COUSINS. πŸž‚ Anya's never met most of her extended family thanks to two main reasons. The first being that most of them are in Heaven and the second but more important reason is that most of them have been and STILL are missing with the exception of her aunt, Adina Delacroix, and her daughters, Raquel & Amariel. In the absence of Elohim, Jesus (yes, he's the half uncle), and the 7 Heavenly Virtues, Adina was selected as Heaven's de jure leader as she is the only angel who both birthed and mothered an Archangel's children.

[FRIENDS] πŸž‚ ONLY 6. πŸž‚ As Princess of Hell and heir to the throne, her parents made sure that their daughter understood that she had to be careful choosing her friends as there’ll always be people who just want to use her money and her status. Her parents' words would lead to Anya's very seldom way of thinking when it comes to making friends as she would make her very first friend in the 3rd Grade. Over the years she’s amassed a tightly knit friend group consisting of six other demons excluding herself. Sometimes she jokes about them being the new Seven Deadly Sins.

[RELATIONSHIP STATUS] πŸž‚ FORMERLY DATED LAZARUS VON ELDRITCH. πŸž‚ CURRENTLY DATING VALORIS CARMINE. πŸž‚ Going from dating a fellow aristocrat in Hell’s hierarchy to dating the daughter of an Overlord isn’t too much of a leap in logic but it is still a noticeable difference. Thanks to her parents not many people publicly commented on their daughter’s romantic life (lest they wish to be publicly executed or suffer true torture for the rest of their damned afterlife) though people have always wondered what caused the end of her and Lazarus’ relationship along with the beginning of Anya’s relationship with Valoris. At the very least she seems to be happy with Valoris. [CORE PERSONALITY TRAITS] πŸž‚ AMIABLE. πŸž‚ AUTHENTIC. πŸž‚ AUTOCRATIC (you’ve gotta be a bit bossy if you’re going to be the future face of Hell.) πŸž‚ CLUMSY. πŸž‚ COMPASSIONATE. πŸž‚ CREATIVE. πŸž‚ DETERMINED. πŸž‚ INDECISIVE. πŸž‚ NAIVE. πŸž‚ OPTIMISTIC. πŸž‚ OVEREMOTIONAL. πŸž‚ SCATTERBRAINED.

[CORE ASPIRATIONS] πŸž‚ HAVING SINNERS ACHIEVE REDEMPTION AT THE HAPPY HOTEL. πŸž‚ PROVE TO EVERYONE THAT SINNER’S CAN BE REDEEMED. πŸž‚ DISCOVER MORE WAYS TO IMPROVE HELL. πŸž‚ HELPING OTHERS TO THE BEST OF HER ABILITY. πŸž‚ BEING A GOOD PARTNER. πŸž‚ NOT BEING A FAILURE.

[FEARS] πŸž‚ AUTOPHOBIA & KAKORRHAPHIOPHOBIA. πŸž‚ Autophobia is the polarizing fear of being abandoned and alone. If one day, the majority of Hell’s denizens suddenly decided to turn their backs on Anya, she wouldn’t care as long as her friends and family remained at her side. However, if her friends and family had ALL abandoned her, not only would she genuinely have a full blown mental breakdown and sob for months, she’d never be the same again. This does not bode well at all with her other biggest fear being Kakorrhaphiophobia which is the fear of failure. Anya does her best to follow the expectations set on her from her citizens, her parents, and even herself. So when she fails to meet this internal quota of hers, she’ll feel like shit but she’ll convince herself to do better in the future and focus on the Happy Hotel staff and its residents. [THOUGHTS ON HOTEL STAFF] πŸž‚ FAIRLY POSITIVE. πŸž‚ For the most part, Anya can see that everybody is trying their best to keep the hotel in business even if they don’t believe in the thought of redemption. She has faith in at least five out of her seven employees coming together to help her make the Hazbin Hotel work.

__________ I hope you guys liked reading Anya's character sheet and I'd like to know what character you'd like to see me write about next. I'll probably do this through a poll so keep your eyes peeled for that and I'll see you guys later!


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9 months ago

I know it's a natural side effect of everything good about the pilot definitely not being written by Viv, and series!Charlie being a supposedly "nice" character being written by a notably not nice person, but I really never got the sense that Series!Charlie gave a damn about the common sinner if they couldn't contribute toward helping her white savior-ass "fix" the demons.

The only time she actually cared about somebody's past was when HER girlfriend used to be an angel, and never told her despite that being a secret that could get her killed if she told the wrong people. She doesn't care about how many people Angel's probably given cement shoes, she got him to quit doing drugs so it's all fine.

Her ideas don't go any deeper than making the demons (who are all perfectly content to live in hell, they just don't like being murdered every year) act vaguely palatable in a Christian manner, there's no focusing on the inherent immorality of eternal punishment, no considerations of a purgatory or reincarnation, or making hell just fucking bigger which they can definitely do, holy shit, just do that, by all means, she acts like a sheltered, apathetic child inserting herself into everyone's lives until its made evident the heaven system is BROKE broke and sacrifices like Sir Pentious' are meaningless when nobody knows the criteria for getting into heaven.

Like the key difference is, if Pilot Charlie caught Alastor blatantly eating one of the inhabitants of the hotel, that would probably the last time anyone sees him alive, but if Series Charlie saw that happening, at worst she'd be kinda annoyed at the bad press. And that's not a bad concept for a character, but it's clearly not the one they were trying to go for, and constantly portraying her as all pure while ignoring her short-sighted and selfish tendencies makes them stick out way more and become hard to root for.

All of this. Pilot Charlie didn't have a spotless track record when it came to knowing what her subjects needed (read, throwing out an addict's pills) but she at least had a more selfless and more adult understanding of it than series Charlie. She paid Angel for his time the first time they met, said the right things, and didn't force everyone to sit around roleplaying Sunday School scenarios and playing clap games.


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