To quote pilot Moxxie, "Excuse me, WHAT!?" I'm sorry, what do you mean CENTIPEDE!? He has this whole spider motif with all of his constant webs and she's saying he was supposed to be a centipede!? What reverse gymnastics is Viv trying to do here??? While I'm not exactly happy at the thought of Mammon being another spider character, that makes way more sense than him being a god damn centipede!
Okay, so I just learned that Mammon's full demon form is based on a centipede... A centipede.... A centipede.
If he was suppose to be a centipede, why doesn't he have a long, multisegmented body? Why the web motive in the theme park? Jesus Christ Vi' is just pulling shit outa her ass again.
I truly believe that both shows have a lot of untapped potential that we'll unfortunately never get to see thanks to Viv refusing to take criticism and the fact that her writers are all yes men. However, that doesn't mean I can't give out rewrite ideas like they're candy to those who wish to tap into either show's said potential. With that being said, here are some rewrite ideas that you could use for Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss! ______ #01.) Have Mrs. Mayberry become one of the residents of the Hazbin Hotel. I promise you, this one writes itself. #02.) Have Glitz & Glam be Fizz's rival co-workers to parallel his time in the circus when he worked with the Buckzo twins who acted more like a family to him. #03.) Write some new workers for the Hazbin Hotel since they're still severely understaffed. You could make these new employees a Hellborn, a Sinner, an Overlord, or Goetia royalty if you wanted too. The possibilities for this one are endless! #04.) Let Heaven contrast with Hell based on how they operate. For example, in my rewrite for the Hellaverse, Heaven doesn't use currency at all. It quite literally doesn't exist up there. Instead, they use the Bartering System as they view it to be the most fair exchange of goods and services. #05.) Have there be a character who doesn't belong in Hell but got sent there anyway for whatever reason. I'd recommend using Valoris (my take on renaming Vaggie) if you don't mind keeping her as a fallen angel or using her original Sinner backstory however I feel like Amélie (I renamed Emily solely because her name is so common. It's not bad but you can tell that there was barely any thought put into it either.) could work just as well since she'd be a fallen Seraph. #06.) Make Lucifer and Stolas evil as they were originally intended to be before Viv scrapped the idea in favor of something worse. Stolitz is a toxic ship no matter how much damage control and retconning Helluva Boss tries to do and when initially asked about how Lucifer would act later in the series on an old livestream, Viv originally wanted to have his character be on par with that of Willy Wonka so do with that information what you will. #07.) Allow for Charlie's, "Anyone can be redeemed," mentality to constantly be challenged by those around her. Don't be afraid to have her be in the wrong because we all know that not everyone can be redeemed. Some people (Valentino) truly aren't deserving of it and others won't be accepting to change. You can lead a horse to water all you want but the horse has to decide to drink it. #08.) Create a proper foil ship for Fallen Star (I hate using the ship name Chaggie) cause if even Stolitz can have one in the form of Fizzmodeus then Fallen Star should have one too. Most people opt to use Emilute but I'm a damn GuitarSpear shipper so I opted for a crossover ship that has Emily and another character from Helluva Boss instead. Listen, if a rare pair and joke ship like CherriSnake can become canon over a ship like Sir Pentious x Rosie that actually makes sense when you consider they're from similar time periods, then a crossover ship being in my AU rewrite is the least of my problems.
For context, here's a screenshot for one of the HH mockup episodes before Viv and her team decided to scrap it. Like the majority of the HH mockup episodes. ______ Well, that's all I've got for now so happy writing and good luck!
I got back into playing CRK about two weeks ago and now this game, yet again, has me in a death grip so I made a set of miscellaneous comics on cookierun.comic.studio using Incorrect Quotes that loosely fit one of my teams dynamics. _______________
Picking up where I left off with this series, the one who got 2nd place in the 2nd HH Rewrite Poll was in fact Vaggie who I have renamed to as Valoris because the fact she's still going by Vaggie in the actual series is heinous.
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[CURRENT NAME] 🞂 VALORIS CARMINE. 🞂 Upon realizing that they were in Hell, Valoris and her mom started coming up with fake/new names as a way of protecting themselves from possibly encountering any familiar faces.
[FORMER NAME] 🞂 XIMENA CONSUELO PINEDA. 🞂 The name Ximena means, “the one who hears,” Consuelo either means, “solace,” or, “consolation,” and the surname Pineda translates to, “pine forest.”
[D.O.B + D.O.D] 🞂 BORN MARCH 1ST, 1992. 🞂 DIED JUNE 18TH, 2016.
[AGE] 🞂 BIOLOGICALLY 24. 🞂 CHRONOLOGICALLY 32.
[GENDER & SEX] 🞂 FEMALE.
[SEXUALITY] 🞂 ASEXUAL LESBIAN.
[ETHNICITY & NATIONALITY] 🞂 A SALVADORAN AMERICAN. 🞂 Even though she was born in Mejicanos, El Salvador, her and her mother had to flee to America in the year 1996 due to life in El Salvador being unsafe.
[SOCIAL STATUS] 🞂 OVERLORD’S RIGHT HAND & DAUGHTER. 🞂 Being the daughter of an Overlord alone, lets other demons know not to mess with her but working directly alongside her mother, Hell's TOP ANGELIC ARMS DEALER??? They're staying far away from her the moment they see her do so much as walk out in the street. [CRIMES COMMITTED IN LIFE FROM LEAST OFFENSIVE TO MOST OFFENSIVE] 🞂 VANDALISM. 🞂 HACKING. 🞂 IDENTITY THEFT. 🞂 STALKING (Both Cyber & Regular Stalking.) 🞂 EXTORTION (Both Cyber Extortion & classic Blackmail.) 🞂 DOXING. 🞂 TORTURE. 🞂 MURDER.
[SINS COMMITTED IN LIFE FROM LEAST TO GREATEST] 🞂 ENVY. 🞂 WRATH.
[PROFESSIONS] 🞂 MAIN JOB: THE VICE PRESIDENT OF CARMINE INDUSTRIES. 🞂 SECONDARY JOB: MANAGER OF THE HAPPY/HAZBIN HOTEL. 🞂 Thanks to helping her run her mom’s business from the ground up, Valoris is more than capable to help her girlfriend in her newfound business endeavors concerning the Happy/Hazbin Hotel. [RELATIONSHIP STATUS] 🞂 CURRENTLY DATING LAVANYA MORNINGSTAR. 🞂 Speaking of her girlfriend, Lavanya is actually the first girlfriend she’s had since being in Hell. While Valoris can’t exactly grasp how kind Anya is thanks to her life and afterlife experiences, she appreciates her kindness much more than she lets on.
[CORE PERSONALITY TRAITS] 🞂 ADAPTABLE. 🞂 CONSISTENT. 🞂 FAIR. 🞂 MISANTHROPIC. 🞂 PUNCTUAL. 🞂 PRODUCTIVE. 🞂 PROFICIENT. 🞂 RESPONSIBLE. 🞂 SAVVY. 🞂 SHREW. 🞂 SKEPTICAL. 🞂 VIGILANT. [RELATIONS TO OTHER OVERLORDS] 🞂 MOSTLY NEUTRAL THOUGH THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS. 🞂 As the Vice President of Carmine Industries, Valoris knows that it’s important to not be too judgemental of the other Overlords as that could limit possible business opportunities and alliances for her mother’s business in the future however there are two Overlords that her and her mother refuse to align themselves with, these being Valentino and Velvette. On the flip side, there are two Overlords who Valoris and Carmilla will always align themselves with, these being Scylla and Zestial, with the latter being their primary ally whereas the former is their primary business partner thanks to some convincing on Zestial's end.
[THOUGHTS ON THE HAZBIN HOTEL & IT’S STAFF] 🞂 THINKS THAT THE HOTEL’S PLAN WILL FAIL BUT HOPES THAT IT’LL WORK. 🞂 SHE EITHER LIKES OR TOLERATES THE REST OF THE STAFF. 🞂 Valoris has acknowledged that most people are cruel and cannot be trusted. Though even after everything she’s gone through in her life and her afterlife, there’s a tiny part of her that hopes that redemption is achievable for those like her who wish to change and for those who were dealt with an unfair hand in life. Excluding Anya, her thoughts on the rest of the hotel staff range from liking to only tolerating them (*cough* Alastor *cough*) for the sake of keeping the peace. _______________
It was nice to do this again and it allowed me to expand on a few other characters and it helped me come up with some new ideas for both this rewrite and my rewrite for HB as well! I'll be honest, I never really liked Vaggie's character as she's always felt so lackluster in comparison to the rest of the cast. Even in the show, she's not terrible however she's also not someone who's worth paying attention to which is a problem considering how much of an impact her, "secret," being revealed in Season #01 is meant to have on the cast and the audience but everybody in universe and out of universe moved on from this so fast that it may as well not have even happened to begin with. So because of that I scrapped her being an angel as it serves no purpose other than for pure shock value. Instead, I made her a Sinner and the daughter to Carmilla Carmine since I like what little interaction they have with one another in the show, her actual daughters don't do anything worthwhile, and I'm already overhauling a lot of the original stuff as is so why not? Anyway, my next post related to my Hazbin Hotel rewrite will be about what I plan to do so far when it comes to the world building of Hell. Hopefully, that's something you guys are interested in seeing but regardless I'll see you around!
Over all of the Hazbin Hotel ships, I chose this one.
I JUST KEEP COMING BACK TO THEMMMMMMM
Nah, cause why do these background character designs genuinely look better than Hazbin Hotel's main cast? I swear, I'm probably gonna make a few of them into actual characters for the HH rewrite I have planned. Especially you, Siren Overlord Lady.
hazbin hotel’s background character designs appreciation post
Stolas being an ass truly unites us all.
I agree, we should let the chef continue cooking up a five star meal.
YALL I PROMISE IM COOKING, we do a bit of design tweaking.
I wanna talk about them so badly!! BUT I CANT CRAFT MY REWRITE, HEADCANNONS AND LORE STUFF TILL IM DONE EM!!
I hate designing Angel and I’m not even done yet 😭
Feel free to ask me stuff about them cuz it’ll probs help me cook stuff up for em while getting out what I wanna say!
Apology Tour completely dismantles the very thought of Stolitz ever being a remotely healthy relationship once they actually become canon on account of AT proving that Stolas doesn't truly love Blitzø for who he is but rather the idealized version of him that Stolas created within his own head and could be replaced by anyone who's willing to take/play Stolas' idealized role of a partner. __________
As much as I hate Full Moon for wasting so much of the audiences time, it did give us that scene where Blitzø was finally sick of Stolas' shit and told him off for it. However, since it's HB the show immediately tries to run damage control in it's next episode, Apology Tour. This is not only another episode that I despise but it's also the one that solidified my hatred for Stolas and his character. In the beginning of Apology Tour, Stolas bitches and moans over how Blitzø is still making their "relationship" about sex when, news flash, it's ALWAYS been about sex because you, Stolas, have kept it that way to the point where your victim feels like he has to sleep with you in order to DESERVE to keep his OWN BUSINESS RUNNING!
And Blitzø isn't wrong! Their "relationship" has always been, as Blitzø worded it back in Season #01 of HB, "a transactional fucking." Why would he see it as anything different when that's how its always been? Now, how does Stolas reply to this?
Honestly, this IS very shocking Stolas as I believe this might be the first time where you and Blitzø have interacted with one another where you're not blatantly sexualizing or romanticizing him on screen! After this he says that Blitzø should respect the fact that he isn't in the mood to sleep with or even speak to him right now. Mind you, whenever Blitzø has told Stolas in the past that he isn't in the mood to sleep with him or be flirted with, Stolas has respected that notion ONE TIME which was after the fiasco at Ozzie's back from Season #01. Otherwise, Stolas hasn't respected his boundaries for shit. Boundaries are important but you two aren't in a real relationship and even if you were respect is still a two way street. If you command respect from someone you choose to CONTINUE to disrespect on a CONSTANT/CONSISTENT basis then why the hell should they respect you? If it wasn't for his book, Blitzø wouldn't have any incentive to cross paths with Stolas at all.
Anyway, literal seconds later, Stolas tells Blitzo how he got invited to an annual anti-Blitzø party and comments on how he's above such silly nonsense only for him to quickly change his tune upon seeing Blitzø's annoyed and enraged reaction to seeing that Verosika is behind this petty pity party.
This starts a back and forth with Stolas demanding that Blitzø leaves. This results in Blitzø, yet again, reinstating on what their relationship truly is and how Stolas fetishizes him which discomforts Stolas because deep down he knows what Blitzø is saying is true.
Now, I won't get into the conversation that takes place after this comment as the critical side of the Helluva Boss fandom on Tumblr has already (rightfully) torn it to shreds. So instead, I'll save us all some time by simply skipping ahead to when Stolas is at the party after that Incubus guy (that rabbid Stolitz shippers hate) asks him if he wants to dance and why I despise that entire scene.
We see that Blitzø is uncomfortable with this and Stolas KNOWS that he's uncomfortable with this random guy asking Stolas to dance with him as Stolas made DIRECT EYE CONTACT with Blitzø! Now, Blitzø does effectively advise that Stolas take up the Incubus' offer with a hand gesture HOWEVER for Stolas to claim that he's always been in love with Blitzø and that he has eyes for him and him alone only to later MAKE OUT WITH A STRANGER just proves and validates Blitzø's feelings that you don't actually love or care about him! And moments before this scene Stolas says this.
THEN GO AND FIND THAT PERSON AS LITERALLY ANYBODY CAN DO THAT! YOU DO NOT LOVE BLITZØ, YOU MERELY LOVE THE CONCEPT OF BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM BECAUSE TO YOU, YOU SEE HIM AS A "CHILDHOOD FRIEND" WHEN IN REALITY YOU KNEW HIM AND HUNG AROUND HIM FOR ONE DAY SINCE YOUR FATHER BOUGHT HIM TO BE YOUR PLAYMATE FOR A SINGLE DAY! ... *Ahem.* In conclusion, there's no amount of future retconning that Viv and Spindlehorse can do to successfully make Stolitz appear as a genuinely healthy ship without trashing the entirety of Apology Tour but even that would create/introduce an entire new set of problems. __________
Man, I've been wanting to get this one off my chest for a while as I haven't seen many people bring up these scenes from AT when discussing how and why Stolas doesn't love Blitzø. I hope you enjoyed reading my thoughts this time around and I'll see you later!
I think how the Seven Deadly Sins are respected should vary depending on how sinful they are. _________
I'm going to be completely honest here. I think the Hellaverse's version of the Seven Deadly Sins are jokes due to how far off they are from their Demonolgy & Theology counterparts. With that being said, something the Hellaverse did get right is how Lust and Gluttony are often considered to be the two weakest sins out of the seven.
Lust is depicted as the weakest of the Sins because it's TYPICALLY the least malicious. As when people hear about a crime related to lust the majority will think of an infidelity having been committed. Does infidelity suck? Absolutely, you were cheated on by your partner with someone who either knew of the situation or with someone who’s in the same boat as you and didn’t know until it was too late. However, I would hope that most of us would rather hear/learn about one of our friends or family members having a partner who cheated on them over other lust filled crimes.
As for why Gluttony is seen as the second weakest out of the Sins would probably be how common it is to commit it and, again, it’s less malicious especially compared to sins like Wrath, Envy, and Pride. Think about it, you probably know at least one person in your family with a really bad habit related to overindulgence whether it be a raging alcoholic, a chainsmoker, a drug addict, or someone with Binge Eating Disorder aka BED (yes, Binge Eating Disorder is an actual diagnosis that many people have and struggle with in their day to day lives as it can cause them to eat excessive amounts of food even when they’re not hungry.) The point is, you likely know someone who has some kind of bad habit that they need to break and should get help so that they don’t end up digging themselves an early grave.
Now, back to my original point, having the Seven Deadly Sins be respected by least sinful to most sinful would make it to where we can not only get a good idea of what the Sins are like before we meet them but more importantly it establishes order and coherent world building which is what the Hellaverse’s hierarchy lacks the most. If I were to order and rewrite the Hellaverse’s Seven Deadly Sins it would be Asmodeus, Beelzebub, Belphegor, Mammon, Satan, Leviathan, and Lucifer.
That way lower class demons could be shown being less tense around Ozzie and Bee as they’re more approachable and sociable compared to other Sins like Satan and Leviathan. From the one image we’ve seen from the Hellaverse’s Satan, I can only assume he’s a tough bastard who would rather settle things in a good old fashioned brawl compared to negotiation.
As for why I think a lot of demons would fear Leviathan more so than Satan is because of most how religious texts describe him as being some kind of giant sea monster (depending on the religion some say he’s a hydra, water dragon, or a water serpent) that could only be slain by God as there used to be several Leviathans but when God realized how destructive they were, he killed all of them except one. If God hadn’t interfered, the many Leviathans would’ve destroyed all of creation.
So why did I place Leviathan lower than Lucifer when he sounds more evil than he does? Well, the answer lies within their intended purpose. Leviathan’s intended purpose was to destroy all who cross his path whereas SAMAEL’S intended purpose was to HELP not to HINDER. Leviathan was released into the ocean and was told, “Annihilate anything and everything.” Meanwhile, Samael was created and lived in Heaven as an Archangel who was instructed to assist God’s creations by watching over them, teaching them, disciplining them, and protecting them. That’s all he had to do but he threw away his title, his dignity, and LITERAL HEAVEN by letting his own hubris get the better of him. Truly, pride goeth before a fall (and apparently before a future name change.) _________
I thought that it'd only be fitting for my 7th opinion to be about the Hellaverse's Seven Deadly Sins. Also I don't hate the Hellaverse's canon Lucifer but I do think his character is a massive disappointment. There are ways to make a dastardly character likable without infantilizing or woobifiying them.
I think that C.H.E.R.U.B. could work as a good foil to I.M.P. but the show (like everything else) utilized them in the wrong way. I actually liked their debut episode and how it played out although if there's one thing that I'd change about it, it would be not having Cletus, Collin, and Keenie get kicked out of Heaven. I'd do this for four reasons. #01.) The team would still want to get even with I.M.P. whether they got kicked out of Heaven or not. We know this because when they initially attempted to go home, Cletus threatened them by saying, "This isn't over," alluding to the fact that we would've seen them again regardless. #02.) Rather than having C.H.E.R.U.B. appear in random episodes (looking at you Season 2) they could appear as proper competitors to I.M.P. going forward with us not only getting to gradually see more members of C.H.E.R.U.B. but also develop a better understanding with how Heaven works, how they treat their Heaven born citizens, and possibly foreshadow how corrupt Heaven is since that's the angle Hazbin Hotel is going for. #03.) Cherubs are literally Heaven's equivalent to Imps. While they wouldn't fully understand how or why the members of I.M.P. are so messed up on account of not being demons themselves, they could, to an extent, empathize with how the members of I.M.P. are mistreated by higher classes. Like, imagine having an episode where both companies are competing over another human being but unlike their previous encounters, I.M.P. hasn't been landing as many deals lately meaning that both business and money have been tight. Naturally, they'd want to secure as many hits as possible and would be pissed to see that C.H.E.R.U.B. is here AGAIN to interfere with their business. Throughout the episode it'd be a close call, though I'd have C.H.E.R.U.B. win in the end so that I'd have someone like Blitzo say, "Oh, look at you! I bet you guys feel real proud for messing with our incomes, huh?" And one of the Cherub's could say something to the extent of, "Incomes? Wait, you guys don't just do this for fun???" Then have it be revealed that the Cherub's genuinely believed that I.M.P.'s business solely existed for some sick and twisted pleasure when in actuality, it was to preserve their livelihoods in Hell. After conversing about it a bit more, I'd have the members of C.H.E.R.U.B. talk among themselves before deciding that, "Y'know, we've done our part. So we're gonna leave but IF something WERE to happen once we've left then there'd be nothing we could do about it." Effectively, letting I.M.P. secure their hit since C.H.E.R.U.B.'s job is done as well as have plausible deniability if any one of their higher ups ask, "Hey, what the hell happened to this guy that you saved?"
#04.) My final point, is that their organization thematically clashes with what I.M.P. aims to do perfectly. I.M.P. wants to kill humans in the living world whereas C.H.E.R.U.B. wants to save them ensuring they live their human lives to the fullest and bidding farewell when they're ready to go. It's simplistic yet effective. Sorry for the long read, I usually go into depth with my opinions. Also, side note, does anyone actually know what the hell C.H.E.R.U.B.'s acronym stands for??? This has bothered me since their debut episode because I'm pretty sure we've never been told what it means.
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