I agree, we should let the chef continue cooking up a five star meal.
YALL I PROMISE IM COOKING, we do a bit of design tweaking.
I wanna talk about them so badly!! BUT I CANT CRAFT MY REWRITE, HEADCANNONS AND LORE STUFF TILL IM DONE EM!!
I hate designing Angel and Iโm not even done yet ๐ญ
Feel free to ask me stuff about them cuz itโll probs help me cook stuff up for em while getting out what I wanna say!
Well, I didn't think that I would be making one of these again yet but here we are. Believe it or not a lot has happened since I made my last post in November of 2024 saying that rewriting HH or HB isn't worth it anymore but now that I've finally caught up on the rest of season #02 of HB, I've decided to redact that post I made back in early November of last year because the writers of Spindlehorse truly have proved to me that most of them never had a real grasp of media literacy to begin with. Now, I don't see myself as some brilliant writer who's on her way to becoming the next Shakespeare or some other arrogant BS like that but I know that without a single doubt in my mind, that I can write something better than the entirety of Helluva Boss Season #02 as well as everything I've seen from Hazbin Hotel. So I've decided that I will go back to rewriting HH & HB because I've realized that if the writers and creator at Spindlehorse can make their own characters look unrecognizable and derail who they were originally supposed to be/once were, that I have nothing to worry about as the worse that I'll be able to do is to make some lame ass fanfic to a show that already feels like an even worse fanfic of itself. TLDR: If Vivziepop and Spindlehorse can manage to make their own characters and narrative a million times worse then I'll just have to find a way to make it slightly better via rewrites.
Pilot Alastor will forever be the superior version of Alastor from his charming Transatlantic and radio filtered yapping to the way he carried himself and was never power hungry.
I'm kinda pissed about Alastorโฆ like he turned out to be a major disappointment for me for a number of reasons. The pilot had promise for him to be quirky and silly which happened to have a darker side to him; and he could have been a mannered but not snarky character- but instead we get another snark fest character like the rest of the cast. Seriously? How many characters does Viv have that aren't โwittyโ (oh that's generous) and sarcastic all the fucking time?
I got back into playing CRK about two weeks ago and now this game, yet again, has me in a death grip so I made a set of miscellaneous comics on cookierun.comic.studio using Incorrect Quotes that loosely fit one of my teams dynamics. _______________
Not too long ago I reblogged a post that involved some of the background characters in Hazbin Hotel because there's a few that I'd like to make into actual characters as they have potential to be something cool. Well, I finished the key information for what I came up with for the Siren Overlord and I'd like to share it! ________ [APPEARANCE]
[CURRENT NAME] ๐ SCYLLA. ๐ She hadn't chosen a new name for herself until after she had been in Hell for about 4 years as that's when she became an Overlord.
[FORMER NAME] ๐ TANASHIRI DATUMOLOK. ๐ Her first name means Sacred Lotus while her surname essentially means Natural Born Leader.
[D.O.B + D.O.D] ๐ BORN JUNE 27TH, 1720. ๐ DIED AUGUST 27TH, 1756. [AGE] ๐ BIOLOGICALLY 36. ๐ CHRONOLOGICALLY 304.
[GENDER & SEX] ๐ FEMALE.
[ETHNICITY & NATIONALITY] ๐ A FILIPINA WHO LIVED IN THE PHILIPPINES. ๐ She never left the motherland until her passing forced her to.
[SOCIAL STATUS] ๐ OVERLORD. ๐ I'm still having her be a current Overlord in my rewrite cause I'm a sucker for her design. [OVERLORD SYMBOL/SIGNAL] ๐ A LOTUS FLOWER. ๐ This is both a reference to her original name along with being another reference to the Odyssey.
[CRIMES COMMITTED IN LIFE FROM LEAST OFFENSIVE TO MOST OFFENSIVE] ๐ THEFT. ๐ B&E (Breaking and Entering.) ๐ TRAFFICKING OF ILLEGAL & STOLEN GOODS (Specifically treasures belonging to rich or wealthy conquistadors.) ๐ESPIONAGE. ๐ AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. ๐ KIDNAPPING. ๐ TORTURE. ๐ MURDER. [SINS COMMITTED IN LIFE FROM LEAST TO GREATEST] ๐ PRIDE ๐ GREED ๐ WRATH ๐ ENVY [OVERLORD PROFESSION/THEME] ๐ PRIDE'S #01 KILLING BUSINESS. ๐ Ranging from run of the mill hitmen to top tier assassins, Scylla's got a wide selection of killers ready to get their hands dirty instead of yours! As long as the price is right (and you actually have the money), simply provide the target's name, time, and location so your killer knows when and where to be. And if you have something sick and twisted in mind, you can customize how your killer handles the process whether it be a specific murder plan to follow through or a more devious torture method before your target breathes their final breath! However, keep in mind that customization does cost extra.
[HOW SHE SECURED HER CONTRACTS] ๐ PRIMARILY DUE TO DESPERATION. ๐ Unlike many Overlords who fool demons into signing away their souls with false promises or clever wordplay, the demons that go to Scylla tend do so out of necessity. The majority of her vast catalog of killers were once demons who were either jobless or homeless. With nowhere else to go, they turned to her as a last resort to, financially, get their lives back on track. Her soul contracts offer good perks to the contractor as they get free healthcare should they get injured on the job, if they're homeless when signing their contract they're able to live in company's apartment complex until they get back on their feet, contractors only work four days out of the week, receive a bi-weekly income, etc.
[TERRITORY NAME] ๐ ANG LUNGSOD NG SALUNGOS. ๐ English Translation = The City of Urchins.
[CORE PERSONALITY TRAITS] ๐ ADEPT. ๐ ALERT. ๐ AMBITIOUS (I feel like this is just a mandatory trait in order for a demon to become an Overlord.) ๐ ANTIPATHETIC. ๐ DARING. ๐ DILIGENT. ๐ PERSPICACIOUS. ๐ RECLUSIVE. ๐ RESOURCEFUL. ๐ SELFISH. ๐ SLY. ๐ TENACIOUS. ๐ THANKFUL. [RELATIONS TO OTHER OVERLORDS] ๐ BARELY ANY. ๐ She has little to no relations to any of the current Overlords on account of only appearing for mandatory/urgent meetings; the last of which happened back in The Great Depression. The Overlord she knows of and has spoken to the most is Zestial as the old(er) bastard has somehow managed to stick around. She's spoken to Rosie twice and has spoken to Alastor all of one time. What she knows about the current Overlords is through social media and whatever intel Zestial has to offer her but other than that she doesn't know them anywhere near on a personal level and vice versa which is exactly how she wants things to be.
________ I had a lot of fun creating Scylla's character (minus her design of course that credit goes to and belongs to Spindlehorse) sheet and I can't wait to share more stuff like this in the future! Thank you for reading and bye for now everyone!
I know it's a natural side effect of everything good about the pilot definitely not being written by Viv, and series!Charlie being a supposedly "nice" character being written by a notably not nice person, but I really never got the sense that Series!Charlie gave a damn about the common sinner if they couldn't contribute toward helping her white savior-ass "fix" the demons.
The only time she actually cared about somebody's past was when HER girlfriend used to be an angel, and never told her despite that being a secret that could get her killed if she told the wrong people. She doesn't care about how many people Angel's probably given cement shoes, she got him to quit doing drugs so it's all fine.
Her ideas don't go any deeper than making the demons (who are all perfectly content to live in hell, they just don't like being murdered every year) act vaguely palatable in a Christian manner, there's no focusing on the inherent immorality of eternal punishment, no considerations of a purgatory or reincarnation, or making hell just fucking bigger which they can definitely do, holy shit, just do that, by all means, she acts like a sheltered, apathetic child inserting herself into everyone's lives until its made evident the heaven system is BROKE broke and sacrifices like Sir Pentious' are meaningless when nobody knows the criteria for getting into heaven.
Like the key difference is, if Pilot Charlie caught Alastor blatantly eating one of the inhabitants of the hotel, that would probably the last time anyone sees him alive, but if Series Charlie saw that happening, at worst she'd be kinda annoyed at the bad press. And that's not a bad concept for a character, but it's clearly not the one they were trying to go for, and constantly portraying her as all pure while ignoring her short-sighted and selfish tendencies makes them stick out way more and become hard to root for.
All of this. Pilot Charlie didn't have a spotless track record when it came to knowing what her subjects needed (read, throwing out an addict's pills) but she at least had a more selfless and more adult understanding of it than series Charlie. She paid Angel for his time the first time they met, said the right things, and didn't force everyone to sit around roleplaying Sunday School scenarios and playing clap games.
My poll about renaming Charlie has officially finished and the winning name from the poll is... ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
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LAVANYA!
Thank you to everyone who participated in the poll and the next time I make an HH Rewrite Related Post will likely be regarding the key information I've written for Lavanya's character.
Worldbuilding, a beautiful and vital thing for all stories to have, is, for some reason, absent in the Hellaverse. Letโs change that.
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โWhen was Hell created?โ โฃ Iโve decided to base Hellโs creation on how long the Earth has been around for which would mean that Hell was made around 4.5 billion years ago. I went this route because it makes the most sense from a logical and theological standpoint as God only made the Earth after he found out that Adam & Eve had disobeyed him by eating The Forbidden Fruit of Knowledge.
โHow many Rings of Hell are there?โ โฃ Usually there are only Seven Rings of Hell but Iโm taking a page out of Danteโs Inferno for this and having there be Nine Rings instead. However, the order of these Nine Rings is rather different. First and foremost, one of the only things staying from the canon Hellaverse is that the Pride Ring is the very first Ring of Hell as I see it as the only Ring meant to house Sinners on account of the majority of humanities crimes stemming from the sin of Pride by believing that they are better than something else whether it be their fellow man, machine, or beast. As far as the other big Six Rings of Hell go after Pride it would be Lust in 2nd, Gluttony in 3rd, Sloth in 4th, Greed in 5th, Wrath in 6th, and Envy in 7th.
โฃ That just leaves me with the 8th & 9th Rings which cannot be accessed via regular means (for instance, Hellโs Metro system for Hellborn citizens) or standard irregular means (like The Marked Alleyways in Pride thatโs used by normal Hellborn citizens and Sinners alike.) The 8th Ring is known as The Ring of Treachery and very few know of its existence and even fewer are aware of the evil it holds. On the other hand, the Final Ring is one that every demon knows and fears as thatโs where those found guilty in The Serpentโs Courtroom are forced to serve capital punishment (yes, there are things far worse than the death penalty in Hell) and go to suffer for the rest of eternity, in the Ring fittingly named, The Abyss. โWhat are the laws of Hell?โ โฃ Obviously, if Hell has some kind of courtroom then there are some type of rules set in place. How said rules work differ depending on four major factors: which Ring youโre in, your place in Hellโs hierarchy, your race, and whether youโre a Hellborn citizen or not. Which doesnโt sound as bad as it could be until you take into consideration that Hellborn groups like Imps have to constantly be updated on and follow the laws in ALL Seven Rings, be "reminded" about their place in Hell by basically everyone around them, and overall be treated less than a Sinner would be because, โat least Sinners EARNED their right to be here.โ The only Hellborn groups to have it worse than Imps are Half-Breeds (like Blitzรธ, Barbie, and Striker) as theyโre expected to memorize DOUBLE the set of rules compared to everybody else and Hellhounds who have the most amount of rules while also having the least amount of freedoms thanks to them being often seen as pets or servants and nothing more. โWill the entirety of Hell be some various shades of red?โ โฃ Short answer, no. Long answer, each of the Rings will be various shades of their specific Sinโs corresponding color. For example, the entire Pride Ring is going to be some tint or shade of purple. The only Rings I canโt really do this for are Lust, Treachery, and The Abyss. For the latter two itโs because they donโt exist in the traditional sense and as far as the Lust Ring goes, Iโll have to change the color to pink as Lustโs true signature color is blue however Sloth is light blue which means one of them has to change and I don't know about you but a blue Lust Ring just doesn't sound or look right to me.
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While I was doing this I hadn't realized just how much Vivziepop & Spindlehorse managed to accomplish NOT making Hell feel like Hell. Both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are solely set in Hell for the sake of being edgy and so that one show can do the done to death trope of, "angels are the real bad guys," while the other show devolved into a convoluted melodrama.
With a story setting like Hell you, as the writer/director, have to understand that you can't just visually show the readers/viewers that this story could only be set in Hell but you also have to make them FEEL like it could ONLY be set in Hell. Viv somewhat grasps the visual aesthetic of Hell but she's completely lost on how to appeal to an even wider audience due to her shows failing to convince people that FEEL like either show truly takes place in Hell. There's no real ongoing suffering happening to the Sinners in Hazbin Hotel (I'm not counting Angel Dust and his problems because they've opted for him to have rushed and off screen character development) as the Extermination only happens once a year and with Helluva Boss, it REFUSES to go all in on depicting high class Hellborn citizens taking advantage of those beneath them in Hell's society (gee, I wonder why/s.) That aside, I hope that you liked the worldbuilding that I've come up with so far and before the day is over I'll probably make a post dissecting Chaggie and why they should've stayed as best friends like they were originally planned to be in HH before Viv changed her mind last minute. Happy Valentine's Day everybody!
I think that C.H.E.R.U.B. could work as a good foil to I.M.P. but the show (like everything else) utilized them in the wrong way. I actually liked their debut episode and how it played out although if there's one thing that I'd change about it, it would be not having Cletus, Collin, and Keenie get kicked out of Heaven. I'd do this for four reasons. #01.) The team would still want to get even with I.M.P. whether they got kicked out of Heaven or not. We know this because when they initially attempted to go home, Cletus threatened them by saying, "This isn't over," alluding to the fact that we would've seen them again regardless. #02.) Rather than having C.H.E.R.U.B. appear in random episodes (looking at you Season 2) they could appear as proper competitors to I.M.P. going forward with us not only getting to gradually see more members of C.H.E.R.U.B. but also develop a better understanding with how Heaven works, how they treat their Heaven born citizens, and possibly foreshadow how corrupt Heaven is since that's the angle Hazbin Hotel is going for. #03.) Cherubs are literally Heaven's equivalent to Imps. While they wouldn't fully understand how or why the members of I.M.P. are so messed up on account of not being demons themselves, they could, to an extent, empathize with how the members of I.M.P. are mistreated by higher classes. Like, imagine having an episode where both companies are competing over another human being but unlike their previous encounters, I.M.P. hasn't been landing as many deals lately meaning that both business and money have been tight. Naturally, they'd want to secure as many hits as possible and would be pissed to see that C.H.E.R.U.B. is here AGAIN to interfere with their business. Throughout the episode it'd be a close call, though I'd have C.H.E.R.U.B. win in the end so that I'd have someone like Blitzo say, "Oh, look at you! I bet you guys feel real proud for messing with our incomes, huh?" And one of the Cherub's could say something to the extent of, "Incomes? Wait, you guys don't just do this for fun???" Then have it be revealed that the Cherub's genuinely believed that I.M.P.'s business solely existed for some sick and twisted pleasure when in actuality, it was to preserve their livelihoods in Hell. After conversing about it a bit more, I'd have the members of C.H.E.R.U.B. talk among themselves before deciding that, "Y'know, we've done our part. So we're gonna leave but IF something WERE to happen once we've left then there'd be nothing we could do about it." Effectively, letting I.M.P. secure their hit since C.H.E.R.U.B.'s job is done as well as have plausible deniability if any one of their higher ups ask, "Hey, what the hell happened to this guy that you saved?"
#04.) My final point, is that their organization thematically clashes with what I.M.P. aims to do perfectly. I.M.P. wants to kill humans in the living world whereas C.H.E.R.U.B. wants to save them ensuring they live their human lives to the fullest and bidding farewell when they're ready to go. It's simplistic yet effective. Sorry for the long read, I usually go into depth with my opinions. Also, side note, does anyone actually know what the hell C.H.E.R.U.B.'s acronym stands for??? This has bothered me since their debut episode because I'm pretty sure we've never been told what it means.
I wish I could make this up but I literally didn't notice that Vassago (parrot dude) was there until you pointed it out because he blends into the background so much.
Back to that HB pride parade art, I just realized somethingโฆ.
Where the fuck is Vortex? You know Beeโs boyfriend. If Millie is there as an ally, why is Vortex doing the same for his girlfriend?
Why am I surprised that Vivโs only Black character (who is not whitewashed) gets the sidelined but Chazโs naked ass, Stellaโs creepy bootleg Elsa brother, and a character that has not even appeared yet (that red bird I do not care to remember his name) are there.
I already seriously disliked Stolas in Season #02 but this episode made sure that I hated him.
I really wish I could put my OC in this show so she would just-
Cuz she would.
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