This Is All Of Course Hinging On The (not Entirely Unfounded) Assumption That Jon Is Going To Get The

This is all of course hinging on the (not entirely unfounded) assumption that Jon is going to get the same resurrection as in the show.

Which will sting more for Jonerys shippers? Reviving him just in time for him to learn the horrible truth and want -100% to do with his aunt?

Or Martin going for broke and having him stay dead and nobody; not Bran and his visions of the past, not Sam finding secret records of Rhaegar annuling his marriage so he can wed Lyanna, nobody finds out Jon Snow's heritage. Ned Stark's greatest secret will forever go to the grave with him, and the cruelty and pointlessness of his death proves the final nail in the coffin of the Prophecy of Ice and Fire?

targ stans love book!jon now but will turn on him the moment he thinks dany is kinda weird 😭

Jon looking at the burned remnants of KL,

Targ Stans Love Book!jon Now But Will Turn On Him The Moment He Thinks Dany Is Kinda Weird 😭

"Dany did this? What a fucking weirdo" 😂

I just think it would be a shame for all the history between the families to be brushed aside rather than culminating in an interesting way? As in, Aerys murdered Jon's grandad, his uncle, and Rhaegar ran off with Jon's mother only for her to die. In addition to any anger about being lied to about his birth, grief over his mother, the loss is of learning he is not Ned’s son, Jon should feel the full weight of Ned claiming him as his own to protect him -- despite what the Targs did to his family. Shouldn’t Jon then have some feelings about a Targ invading Westeros? Even if his dad was a Targ? It makes it interesting because on the one hand, there’s a unique connection there to allow layers in a confrontation (they’re family!), but on the other, few have greater reason to be opposed.

For Jon "Let them say that Eddard Stark had fathered four sons, not three" to have no opinion on a Targ brutally conquering Westeros after Ned tried to get rid of them, well, it would feel like a waste of all that backstory? Also, shouldn’t he have thoughts about Dany specifically after she kills Aegon, after the Dothraki do what she's gonna be incapable of preventing, after the destruction of a city with unimaginable civilian deaths? So not only pre canon puts him on guard, but then what transpires in canon will horrify him?

Even if we take it out of the Targ v Stark context, very early on we learn Ned had to chase Jorah down for being a slaver and Mormont told Jon what a disgrace Jorah was, so Jon got the "Jorah Mormont is a loser" message coming from two father figures. Doesn’t that seem like a deliberate choice by the author? To prime Jon to despise a man he’s written as obsessed with Dany? And of course, there's Tyrion, a Lannister who wanted to hold the North by marrying Jon's little sister who will be with Dany too, so there’s just all sorts of angles to approach a Jon and Dany meeting, none of which bode well.

So much fun stuff to dig into! To ignore it seems like a far less exciting take. But yeah, judging by the reaction to show Jon, I don’t think the fandom will take kindly to his inevitable reaction to Dany.

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4 years ago

*laughs in ugly seal noises*

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3 years ago

My 29 and a quarter ass liked it *because* its corny, cheesy, ridiculous, and goofy. Its the Looney Tunes, *thats* what I paid for 🥰

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2 years ago

Speculation time my beloveds!!

What do you believe George has in mind for The Winds of Winter, more specifically what will be different to change it up from the show? I'll go first:

In true penultimate episode fashion, the Winds of Winter will be where everything goes horribly wrong for our heroes, bringing about the narrative Darkest Hour:

Jon is resurrected as a wight, maybe even a super wight Night King with the kiss of a (PLOT TWIST!) female Other, to lay waste to the Night's Watch and weaken if further to the invasion of winter

Bran loses himself entirely as an individual, Bloodraven taking control for nefarious purposes as the chief intelligence of the Old God's hive mind

Arya will be torn between her desire for home and the relative safety of the House of Black and White, getting herself grievously wounded and ill after her disastrous fight to escape Braavos because her heart won't truly be in it.

Davos will come within an *inch* of getting Rickon home from Skagos, only to watch the boy painfully die in his arms

In a fit of desperation, Melisandre will burn Shireen as a sacrifice, and they lose anyways

Stannis will live just long enough to hear that all he did and said was utterly worthless, and will die an equally worthless death

Lady Stoneheart and the Brotherhood are gonna kill *somebody* who doesn't truly deserve it with Jaime watching

House Tyrell will perish by wildfire in the Great Sept of Baelor, destroying a huge portion of Westeros's order all for the sake of Cersei's mad and petty ambitions and vengeance

Tyrion's wretched demon luck will carry him all the way on the Golden Company's back to lay waste to the Seven Kingdoms on a check those empty mines can't cash, and will somehow escape cackling all the while as he finds some court to hide in while the whole continent goes up in flames

Only Sansa will escape relatively unscathed, working her way into the hearts and loyalty of the Vale houses with or without Littlefinger's help, and she will lead the charge to retake her home in A Dream of Spring

Yes, I know I am very very evil. Give me your counterpoints on what *you* think will happen.


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2 months ago

Can we please talk about Robert Pattison’s range for a moment because it’s crazy 😦

1 year ago

What am I looking at..? Is that a whole chicken? A pie? Is that gelatine? *What* am I looking at..?

Every Aspic Of This Is Terrible.

Every aspic of this is terrible.

The Art of French Cooking - 1962

3 years ago

*head empty, bopping along to "Stars In The Sky"*

Y’all you have absolutely no idea how much the end of Sonic 2 decimated me

2 months ago

I *thought* he looked familiar! Well, I've had worse excuses to see movies twice in theaters + string together a double feature

If I had a nickel for every science fiction/comedy movie Stephen Park was in in 2025 I’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it is funny it happened twice

(Head of security in Mickey 17 and medical lead in Death of a Unicorn)


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2 months ago

We've been without the next book too long if this is what we've been reduced to when it comes to theories and plot twists... 😅

Apparently the favourite Rhaegar x Lyanna explanation is now that the whole war is actually Brandon Stark's fault (Rhaegar only kidnapped Lyanna to save her from Aerys' wrath, realised how perfect this arrangement was for the prophecy, he told Rickard about it but didn't have time to tell Brandon and Brandon then ruined everything when he went to King's Landing). Like. Sure, time to blame the guy who lost his sister and was then brutally murdered alongside his father. Also, Rickard definitely would have been fine with his only daughter, whose betrothal was decided by him, becoming the crown prince's second wife (at beast). Anything to absolve Rhaegar of blame

Wow.

Also, can we remember that what started the war was not Brandon riding in to the Red Keep and being a little too confrontational about the fact that his sister was abducted by the crown prince, but the fact that Aerys chose to murder eight people about it? Lords and their sons? Without trial? Lords of the Riverlands, Vale and North? And then went on to demand the murder of two more, Eddard Stark and Robert Baratheon, the new Lord Stark and the Lord of Storm's End? Two of the highest Lords in his Realm? On the basis of absolutely nothing?

Even if the hare-brained theory had any merit - that Rickard Stark would have been fine with making a concubine of his only daughter and destroying a betrothal that would have made her the Lady of Storm's End - that still has no bearing on the fact that Aerys decided to be a tyrannical, sadistic murderer instead of following the rule of law and upholding his end of the feudal contract and granting a fair trial.

And given the volatile political position of House Targaryen at the time, given that a block of informal alliances had formed between North, Vale, Stormlands and Riverlands, Rhaegar is STILL INSANELY CULPABLE if he did not realize that kidnapping half of a future marriage within that alliance block would be the domino that would send political stability in the Realm crashing and burning. Even if Aerys had not been a sadistic tyrant. Which, however, he was!

The conduct of House Targaryen is from every angle indefensible and no amount of contrived excuses will change that.

2 years ago
Same Energy

Same energy

The Funniest Thing About The NFL's "End Racism" End Zone Logos (which They Put In Post 2020 BLM Protests

The funniest thing about the NFL's "End Racism" end zone logos (which they put in post 2020 BLM protests instead of actually doing anything) is that every now and then you have a shot that just says "RACISM" in big, bold letters across the screen.

1 year ago

You'll never take me alive!!

You'll Never Take Me Alive!!
Happy Pride Month From The One And Only Hatsune Miku

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