Unstableplague - Mercury

BWAAAAHHHHH wake the fuck up everyone on earth

tell me more about miguel and how they did him dirty

Miguel O'Hara aka Spider-Man 2099 was a part of the 90s Marvel effort to create future and edgy heroes for the 1990s. There were heroes like Doctor Strange 2099 and Hulk 2099, but Spider-Man 2099 is the only one who kept any real interest past the 1990s.

His origin comics were the first three issues of his 1992 run. We open with Spider-Man of the future! He's cool, in a black and red suit (yes the inking just looks off, it was originally black and red.) In the year 2099, Alchemax, the company everyone remembers from Into the Spiderverse, owns nearly everything. Including the cops. The police are no longer state owned, but instead owned directly by the corporation itself. It's also implied very early on that the US government in 2099 is ALSO owned by Alchemax.

Pictured above is Miguel O'Hara.

Lyla, Miguel's holo-agent (who he did NOT make but that's the least of our Spiderverse woes at this point) plays messages for him. It's quickly understood Miguel doesn't communicate, likes to isolate and ignores his problems until he HAS to deal with them.

We find out later in the comic that this man, Tyler Stone, has seemingly drugged Miguel with a drug called Rapture, an incredibly addictive future drug that binds to your DNA and it's impossible to lose the addiction. Tyler drugs Miguel because after all of the really awful scientific experiments and inhumane things Tyler's made Miguel do at Alchemax, Miguel decided to quit. But Stone doesn't want Miguel to leave the company, so he drugs him.

Later, muuuuch later, we find out this guy is his biological dad.

Pretty awful stuff.

This guy is Gabriel O'Hara, Miguel's half-brother. He doesn't trust Alchemax or any of the genetic experimentation they've got going on. He knows his brother is involved, and he doesn't want his brother involved anymore. It's interesting to note that Gabriel, after telling his brother how disappointed he is in him, says he still loves him. But Miguel doesn't want to hear that (super well-adjusted not depressed man here, you see) and turns it off.

Miguel in the comics is a geneticist and studies biology. He famously doesn't do well with technology. And so what solution does he find to his drug problem? Biology.

(You can see how saying he's an unnatural Spider is going to start being a problem. At least, depending on what your definition of the word "natural" is.)

In the comic, we flashback a bit to pre-Spider-Man 2099 times to figure out exactly how Miguel got like this.

Miguel is the head of the Genetics Division of Alchemax and isn't exactly the most popular guy around (he's very self-entitled and self-assured). The entire purpose of their project is to recreate Spider-Man in the year 2099, to become the perfect lapdog to Alchemax to keep the city in "order."

Miguel O'Hara at this point is pretty much the worst of the worst, tbh.

Sure, Miguel wants to genetically recreate Spider-Man. But they aren't ready for human subjects, and Tyler Stone and his co-worker Aaron Delgato (actually kind of important for later) push ahead on the project. Long story short, their test subject dies and Miguel quits.

Tyler doesn't like that so he drugs him.

Miguel doesn't want to be addicted to Rapture the rest of his life, or at Tyler Stone's mercy either, so he decides to try to rewrite his genetic code to get rid of the Rapture addiction.

Delgato, who hates Miguel, was also still in the lab, and decided to rewrite his DNA even further to put him as half a spider. His intention was to kill him, but Miguel survives and becomes genetically half-man, half-spider.

Across the Spider-Verse seems to directly go against this both with whatever drug Miguel is injecting into his system and the fact they say he cannot shot organic webs, but instead tech-based ones. This would lead us to assume his talons and fangs are also a result of his "Spider" potion.

When in reality, Miguel now permanently has fangs, and has to mumble whenever he talks to loved ones. He CAN retract his talons, but only if he's actively thinking about it. He shoots organic web out of the top of his wrists. Those fangs? He can paralyze people with them, just like a spider bite could.

So with more and more confirmation that this adaptation of Miguel is not "really" a spider, it shows how little time they took to look in his comics.

It's concerning as well because it seems as if the only backstory they want for him is the made-for-the-movie daughter, and not his brother (pictured above), his mother or even Dana or Xina, two of his love interests/childhood best friend in Xina's case. It shows us that there many not have been any research into the character besides seeing that he can be a "scary" adversary to Miles.

I'm also going to link a previous post I made about Miguel and Gabriel's home life and domestic abuse that directly impacts how Miguel interacts in his world, and probably how he engages with the other Spiders. If it was at all discussed.

hits that poor unsuspecting employee with the father beam

i need demo from tf2 and soap from cod to fight to see who's more scottish

Out of Touch

Ok so not once, but TWICE, RIPeter in ITSV says he’s worried using the collider would create a black hole under Brooklyn. And guess what appears in Mumbattan once Spot uses the collider…

A black hole…

It’s obvious Miguel is wrong about canon events, whether it’s out of ignorance or is intentional is unknown. Because when the world he lived in disappeared, it did not look like it was being enveloped by a black hole. It almost looks like everyone was glitched out of existence.

It’s unknown if they’ll be able to fix Mumbattan, but it’s clear something fishy is going on…

I'm sure part of the reason why some people are resistant to Silver being twisted from Aurora is because he's more active (at least in Book 7) and is generally taking on a more 'hero' role than Aurora has.

But what if I told you there's a 2003 Disney Princess game for Gameboy Advance that has Aurora being the hero of the story of Sleeping beauty 👀

This girly right here.

There's a non-zero chance that Yana might have looked into this game since she used Disney's Aladdin in Nasira's Revenge from 2000 as inspiration for Najma

In the game, Maleficent targets the three good fairies and Aurora takes it upon herself to rescue them with magic she borrowed from them (and animal friends), all while she's being hunted down by Maleficent.

When she frees them, she's encouraged to rescue everyone. She also fights against Maleficent (with the assistance of the three fairies) and fulfills saves herself and her kingdom (rip Phillip he's nowhere to be seen)

So not out of the realm of possibility for a character based on a princess to do something more active in a reimagining story. This might've been an excuse to yap about a game I just started to get to play again on an emulation I found online lol

But I remember playing Aurora's story very vividly as a kid. I don't think it's bad to take previously static characters and give them more agency to do things, even if their first iteration was still good. Silver being princess-coded but still an active character is fun to me at least.

reverse gaslighting where i pretend to know exactly what you are talking about