I personally think it's important for Cas to explore with this chick. We know that he's mentioned that he is indifferent to sexual orientation as an angel, but now as a human I think that in order for him to develop as a character he does need to explore this sexuality in all manners.
One issue is if the writers had him sleep only with Dean then he would be perceived by a lot of the general audience as gay (which they already think of him as the "gay angel", but that's besides the point), but it's not true based off of what he has said about sexual orientation. He is indifferent to it and that needs to be reiterated especially to those who don't keep track of everything Cas says the way we do. :)
Another issue is that Cas is newly human and he hasn't seen Dean while he's been completely human before. To say that as soon as Cas sees Dean as human he wants to suddenly jump his bones is a little too much new info to dish out. Has he shown interest in sex before? Yes, but having a boner and kissing someone because you saw how it was done on TV is different than actually experiencing the act of sex for yourself actively participating in it.
The writers have to introduce the idea of Cas as a new sexual being and then introduce the idea of him with Dean, which means that Cas and Dean aren't a thing in the first part of the equation. They can't be for the story of them getting together to be worthy of their story up until now. So for now we get part 1 where Cas finally has sex, explores that route.
Then he can make more connections based off of how he has felt. Like "Oh... this is how I felt when I did this with that girl... Oh.... I feel this way about Dean... Ooooooooooooh"
Otherwise he'd be confused about what he is feeling. Remember this is all new to him and what he feels for Dean he may not fully get the implications of unless he experiences something similar to someone else and can compare and contrast them.
...... and to be frankly honest if he ended up sleeping with Dean first he would never get the chance to explore that other side to him ( =P ), he would forever be curious as to what would that be like? His curiosity could lead to infidelity and a road I know the fandom would throw a fit over.
Anyways, just my personal thoughts on the topic. There's more to it, but that's just the basics as I have to go to work now. Cas being with a girl first isn't going to be the end of Destiel, I promise. But it could in fact even be a jump shoot to it :) Stay positive everyone!
“We’re gonna get you out of here.”
I....may have gone a little bit overboard on this one, but @bamsara ‘s series ‘Cryptids Emotions and the Possible End of the World’ has given me brainworms for MONTHS and the latest update has only made the worms worse by talos this cant be happening-
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IF YOU SHOULD BEG by @xenovillain
I love the story and characterisation so much, very excited to see how this ends
Pardon any inaccuracies as I’m typing this right before bed.
Spoilers for 10x19!! While I personally don’t think the order in which things were said is important: “... kill some people? Kill Cas? Kill Sam?” I do think that the fact that they were addressed as separate things was significant. Obviously Dean’s subconscious was grabbing onto things he found important. Saving people has always been a mission of his. People are important to him. Cas and Sam are important to him as well. But why not just say “Kill Cas and Sam?”
... Because they’re not the same.
They are all important to him, but all three things hold different places in his life. People are his mission. Sam is his beloved brother.
Cas is not a brother to Dean as this line suggests. If he was, he would have been included as “Cas and Sam” or vice versa, implying “my brothers.” But he wasn’t. He was separate. So brother is out. He can fall in one of two places.
Best friend (which Bobby had declared him in season 7) or a romantic interest (which is inconclusive, but highly suggested).
Either way, it’s nice to see that Cas is recognized as someone special in Dean’s life. He’s different from Sam, different from other “people.” :)
I'm convinced that Metatron knows that Cas is in love with Dean and I'm convinced that he's known it since S8. I think Metatron was tailing Cas when Cas went to the gas station. There's a reason for that scene and it's to show Metatron that Cas is pretty much willing to assault some poor defenseless human for pie to make Dean happy. The moment that Cas shows this, Metatron conveniently appears. Why? Because he's found what he needs for his spell to work. An angel who has enough power to do some dirty work to kill the nephilim, who is naive enough to believe him, and who is in love (possible specifically with a human). And since Cas has always been a meddlesome angel who seems to crash everyone's plans he tells him to "find a wife, make babies" to try and keep him away from Dean, otherwise he'll get sucked right back in and Metatron wanted him out of the picture. Plans had to be altered though when Cas completely ignored what he said in favor of helping Dean and the fallen angels (though he tried for a little while), re-entering the picture. So, he made this elaborate plot to make the angels turn away from Cas and follow himself, but he is severely underestimating Team Free Will >:) That's my theory, but who really knows?
Sorry, yet another long piece, but I feel it needs to be said. I apologize as my thoughts tend to jump around a lot when I do these and sometimes it can be a bit confusing.
Just to clarify, I am not hating on ANYONE and these thoughts are my opinions so you don't have to take anything I say to heart if it doesn't coincide with your belief.
I hope though that it may bring a little peace and calm about recent events to at least a few. :)
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I have been watching Supernatural since episode 1 of season 1 aired.
I am also a Destiel shipper. It took me a while to actually see it though.
I was in the middle of season 6 when I found out that shipping Dean and Cas together was actually a thing. I honestly had never even thought of them as a pairing. They seemed too platonic at the time and I didn't really get it, but I'm the type of person that doesn't care what people ship as long as they love their ship.
I ended up looking it up, curiosity getting the better of me, to see why people were shipping these two. What was the driving force? Looking at a few things I started to think,"Oh, okay. I guess I can kinda see how they could ship that."
It was a fun ship though and so I dabbled in it a bit and then read some meta on everything and decided to ship it. I liked it, they were cute, you could kinda reason that they might be in love.
Season 7 rolled around and I was like "Haha, that was definitely a shout out... Too funny!" for some of it. They were showing their fans that they do listen to what they say, even if they can't give them it 100% what they want. I appreciate it when they do that. They are trying.
But I honestly really didn't see it with these two until it was brought to my attention, which is probably how most of the audience has been. Not everyone who watches t.v. picks apart every little thing that is thrown in like sharp and avid fans do (this is meant as a compliment). Most, like myself, just take the obvious and roll with it.
Then season 8 rolled around... and I kinda stopped myself and was like... "Are they?"
The writers and actors kind of toed the line a bit more obviously. Something in season 8 had switched from the previous seasons concerning Dean and Cas. This is where a lot more people, especially casual watchers took notice.
I've been interested to see how far they would push it and watching the beginning of season 9, they are basically giving us a fanfic with these two.
Dean giving a heartfelt prayer to Cas and saying "I need you here"? Cas getting stabbed just as Dean comes to rescue him, Dean breaking after realizing he was too late, his relief when Cas is alive again? How HAPPY Dean is that Cas is in the bunker with them? When was the last time that you saw Dean really smile so joyously as Cas being in the bunker, conversing, safe, and with him? Then to throw even more drama into their relationship, having Dean lie to Cas and make him leave?
This is like that part in a fic where you want to stop reading because it hurts too much, but you keep going because you KNOW it's going to get resolved after much heartache (unless this is a death fic).
Now a lot of people are upset about this, but this is what we've been asking for really.
We want more Destiel action. We can't have a Destiel arc without some drama between the two of them. Do you know how guilty Dean is going to feel? How badly he's going to be pining for Cas to come back? He FINALLY had Cas where he could just STAY and now he has to be the one to make him leave.
If you think that this is the writers trying to break their relationship apart for good, then I must ask where you all dropped those wonderful insights of yours? The ones that were able to see where all this was headed WAY before people such as myself? If you can't see that this is the way that Dean and Cas's relationship is going to grow stronger, I don't know what to tell you.
Just because Destiel is not canon and has never been canon, does not mean that it doesn't exist or that it won't. Doesn't mean we shouldn't stop shipping it.
How many of your ships have actually been canon? Quite a few have not been I'm sure if you're like me.
Does that mean that we stop shipping them? No!
Even if they gain a love interest? Hell No!!
Because when you ship a ship, you see it for what it is. No one can convince you otherwise if that's what you believe in.
I choose to believe in Dean and Castiel's relationship, whether it be canon or not. I believe it is there. I believe it is strong. I believe nothing will be able to keep them apart.
The truth however, about Destiel, is that it was never intended to exist. When this show was created Castiel most likely wasn't even a concept. This story originally started with 2 brothers killing things. Now this story is about those 2 brothers and their adopted family killing things.
So where then, do I think this show is heading with Dean and Cas? Definitely not the route that has everyone upset.
9x03 actually made me hopeful about their relationship. Whether or not the writers make it canon romance, they are showing us, by setting us up for a typical "break up and make up" with these two that they have no intentions of destroying this beautiful relationship. They are acknowledging that there is a bond there.
I'm not positive that Dean and Cas will ever have that fluffy romance that everyone dreams of. Their lives are not built for that and that kind of relationship never seems to last in this show. And again, Dean doesn't do that "love... and love thing."
But what I am seeing the set up for is for Cas to basically be initiated as the 3rd Winchester brother. (Which is basically the best Team Free Will thing ever!)
The one thing that bothers me slightly about this approach though is how close Dean and Cas are compared to how close Cas and Sam are. They are friends definitely and they would die for each other, but Dean and Cas... are close on a whole other level. It IS different between these two and I feel this is where there is a problem.
I don't think Cas CAN become a Winchester BROTHER.
Cas is different to Dean than anything. Dean does not treat Cas like Sam, like Bobby, like Ellen or Jo, like Garth, like John or Mary, like Lisa or Ben, or any of their other random hunting buddies. Cas... is Cas.
"He's Cas."
Cas is family. But he doesn't have a title. He CAN'T have a title, because Dean doesn't do romance and Cas doesn't fit anything else. I think that Sam gets that. It's almost like Cas is Sam's brother and Cas is Dean's something undefined.
Despite the fact that I feel Dean and Cas have something going on, I don't think Destiel will become canon in the sense that many of us want to see (it might, who knows). The reason why? Destiel isn't pertinent to the story right now.
#1 Cas is newly human. He definitely has a lot to figure out before jumping head first into a relationship where he most likely doesn't even understand feelings. Most of us suck at relationships and we've had years to practice feelings.
#2 It's kind of hard to worry about your love life when there are angels on your ass and Abaddon in your face. They have bigger fish to fry right now.
If the way to save the day was for Dean to admit his feelings to Cas? Then we can say that Destiel is pertinent to the plot. Or if this was a soap opera where relationships are the driving point of the show? Then we can say that Destiel could be pertinent to the plot.
But the writers have already done the "gay love love can pierce through the veil of death" thing and while Supernatural IS a love story, it is not a soap opera.
That doesn't mean that Destiel will never happen, because if you're like me... you already believe it has.
I mean look at all the evidence you've all compiled! Look at all the people that are starting to notice! Look how many polls you've won and how many shippers there are!
There IS something there between Dean and Cas and we don't need anyone to confirm what we know is there. We can SEE it. It's there and I think we find it wonderful just the way it is. So even if we don't get to see an "onscreen kiss" we can be happy that our ship is one of the most beautiful love stories ever told. AND we didn't even need them to have kiss or have sex to prove it! :)
And man if we want porn or fluff!.... Well... that's what we invented fan fiction for right?
So relax. Destiel is not dead. It is not sinking. It's just that terrible time of anguish before their relationship gets even stronger and becomes more difficult to deny.
Show your support for the writers, actors, and crew! They put SO much effort into trying for us. They have such limited time on episodes to put everything they'd like to in.
So when they give us a Destiel moment, let's take it and run with it! Because they thought we were important enough to find time in their tight timeline to try and give us a little of what we want even if it's not ALL we want.
Love the crew.
Love yourself.
Love your ship.
Love Supernatural.
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Don't Ever Stop Trying In Everlasting Love (DESTIEL)
part 2 of this
run down - Dib used the only power source he had (his phone) to save Zim’s life within those 10 minutes- scavenging any resources he could within Zim’s dead and dark base.