As much as we all like to imagine a universe where Loki survives Thanos and joins the Avengers in some ‘good ending’ plot line... I genuinely don’t think he’d be an Avenger for very long, if at all.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he can’t ‘be a good guy’ or anything, but I can’t see him being an Avenger. Not only because of his bad rap with earth, not only because Thor is involved and their relationship is rocky at best, but because of the other characters.
I have no problem believing that Bucky, Steve, Thor, Vision, and maybe Bruce (Seeing Ragnarok) would be willing to give him a chance. Strange and T’challa... maybe, if simply because they weren’t really involved with/aware of his ‘mishaps’ in New York. However, the others? ...I genuinely can’t see them being too welcoming to him. Especially Tony, Clint, Pietro, and Wanda.
The situation with New York I imagine would hit a little too close to home for Wanda and Pietro, so they’d at the very least be wary of him at first. Tony and Clint on the other hand, would be unabashedly cold to him. I can see Tony even borderline bullying him sometimes. (Using him as a punching bag because he was the root cause of his trauma from NY? Maybe not purposefully, but I can see him subconsciously targeting him for that reason.)
Other characters like Sam, Peter P, and Scott would probably only have known him through the news and other things detailing the events of the disaster, so would most likely see him as a terrorist. I don’t think I need to explain why that would cause some issues.
Because of this animosity, I don’t see Loki being able to be an Avenger. Not because they wouldn’t try, but because Loki just wouldn’t be able to stomach the treatment he’d be levied.
Honestly, he might be similar to Natasha in that regard. Wanting to ‘clear his ledger’ and believing that joining a group of ‘heroes’ would help him redeem himself. Only this time, instead of it being filled with hydra members, it’s filled with people who treat him just like everyone in Asgard did when he was growing up.
A chance he’d be given, but some characters would give it reluctantly, and some would keep treating him like a criminal until he eventually just gave up and left.
Dunno, that’s just how I see it. Don’t let me ruin your fun though, a ‘happy ending’ is definitely deserved for all of these characters, so feel free to disregard this little angsty headcanon of mine, lol.
Also, if you disagree and think I’m mis-characterizing someone or missing a piece of info, feel free to explain why. I like having discussions about stuff like this, haha. ^v^
oh my! you have been visited by the good news ponies! 🩷 wont u give them just a moment?
Oh look, back in the time when Marvel was willing to admit that the NYC invasion wasn't all Loki's doing and somebody else had sent him there.
Now however? Oh now they act like Loki chose to let go from the Bifrost thinking "hey, I feel like invading Midgard. How about NYC? I never liked the skyline".
Now they have one of their new characters say to Loki's face that he enjoyed it, that he was having the time of his life killing mortals and that he was doing it out of his own volition. Not a damn mention of Thanos.
Even in the What If series they have him in ep3 willing to invade Midgard for... reasons? And giving that goddamn speech about craving subjugation.
Marvel, please stop acting like Loki invaded NYC because he woke up one day feeling edgy. It's in your own damn canon.
Steve decides to start incorporating team building exercises, with the real problems being Pietro and Wanda’s trust in Stark and the mutual trust between Loki and Thor. (As well as Loki and everyone else, except Peter P.) However, Peter decides to suggest another way of doing things after noticing everyone’s starting to get really bored of the old methods from Steve’s era, as well as many of them getting into fights during the exercises.
So Peter decides to suggest to Steve that they do something else, at least every other time they do these exercises. The suggestion is a bit strange to Steve at first, but after encouragement from an eavesdropping Sam, they decide to go through with it.
Next thing the public knows, word goes out that the Avengers have a YouTube channel. Sure enough, a channel featuring everyone doing miscellaneous tasks and challenges could be found.
Most of the team were hesitant about it at first, that is until some of them started getting fanmail and gifts sent to the tower. Tony gets letters from people who look up to him, Bruce gets letters from people giving advice on how to keep calm and empathizing with him in some cases, Loki even gets a few letters from people about how ever since he became an Avenger he’s become their hero, etc.
They basically end up becoming internet personalities by accident, and their team building goes from rocky and hating being on camera, to suddenly becoming more of a team and gaining trust with one another subconsciously while being preoccupied in trying to entertain the audience/fans.
-And that’s how the Avengers crew ended up getting into social media.
It basically ends up being like ten minute power hour, lol.
It's kinda sad that the topic that T1 tried to poke went over so many people's heads, because so many fans reduce Odin and Loki's conflict to "you lied to me"/"I'm sad I'm not actually your son/heir to the throne", when it's pretty obvious that it goes way deeper than that: Loki mentions how it finally "makes sense" why Odin "favored" Thor and that Loki could never be good enough no matter how much he tried, because Odin wouldn't allow the frost giant to sit on the throne.
He wasn't upset because he wouldn't get the throne, he admits he never wanted it in the first place, and it's not "oh no I'm adopted", it's more of "You took me as a political prisoner, taught me to hate my own kind, all these years I've been trying to figure out why you would always forgive Thor but you are so harsh and cold when it comes to me, and I've tried to be better because I thought I'm doing something wrong, but the reality is that no matter what I do it'll never be enough for you because I was born on the wrong planet with a wrong skin color that you and your people despise so much that you stripped me off it, and no matter how many times you claim to love me, you couldn't show me kindness unless you needed something from me, and it was never about what I do, just who I am".
No, really, this conflict is so much deeper than what fandom makes it seem to be, and the more I think about it the more messed up it gets.
Riddler, talking to some random girl: And here's my number. Ha-ha!
Scarecrow: Do you just... walk around with your phone number pre-written on pieces of paper???
Riddler, smirking: Yep.
Scarecrow, rolling his eyes: Of course you do-
no offense but male protagonists whose strength comes from empathy, compassion and humanity will always be more interesting than snarky assholes who punch everything and treat everyone around them like shit
I think it's kind of sad that I can't bring myself to care about new stuff in the MCU anymore.
It's not about superhero-fatigue or whatever other things people are suggesting may be the cause, though. I feel like the reason I and many other people are starting to overlook new stuff and not care is because the people making those movies and stuff basically just... stopped caring about it themselves.
They stopped really putting effort into it, and it shows. There are a couple of outliers, like Moon Knight, but for every Moon Knight that comes out, there are three Loki series, or Mobius movies. Y'know?
It's become less and less rewarding and less and less fun to watch. Just cash-grabs, rather than actual stories with substance.
And I feel like this is easy to notice when you think about how Invincible and The Boys is super popular despite the idea of 'Superhero fatigue'. The difference between DC/Marvel and The Boys/Invincible? (Besides the violence, obviously.) is that 'The Boys' and 'Invincible' actually have time, effort, and love put into them. While the DCEU and the MCU are both basically being milked to death by the same people who tried to copyright 'Día de los Muertos' after they made the movie Coco.
...But hey, at least we still have the MCU before Ragnarok (+Black Panther) to enjoy, right? We also have all the animated DC and Marvel content, as well as all the comics.
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