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The past, the present, and hopefully the future...

The handsome babygirl -> object head twink pipeline is crazy ,,,

Alt lighting and other stuffs in case anyone wants 'em!

Remember guys, he cut off his face, not his head! Isn't he handsome? 💗

(More like surgically shaved it down to fit into the TV but who's looking-)

(not him cosplaying as William Afton lmao)

I think he'd be very gentle with kids 🩷

"Don't worry, little one...

... I'll be your friend. "

Hot take: Mr. Puzzles receives too much blame for Western Spaghetti.

(Ramble under the cut)

"Mr. Puzzles tortured Meggy in Western Spaghetti, he made her relive her death over and over for a month!" No, he didn’t actually. That was One-Shot Wren. Sure, he gave Wren the technology and control of the simulation, but he didn't force Wren to do anything after that. You could argue that Puzzles enabled him, but Wren's actions toward Meggy and the crew afterward were all his own. Mr. Puzzles just sat back and watched. Did his comment about Meggy's "performance" in the Puzzlevision movie feel like adding insult to injury? Sure, but I think he legitimately thought he was giving her actual praise and just didn't even consider the mental/emotional ramifications of it all. Of course this doesn't excuse the things he HAS done, but Western Spaghetti specifically is on Wren.

On that same note, I actually think Mr. Puzzles isn't quite as "malicious" as we've painted him to be. He’s crafty, and he did do some pretty terrible things during the Puzzlevision arc, but they struck me as coming from a lack of understanding of the damage he was doing than actual malice. Again, it doesn’t excuse them, but it's not like he specifically wished them harm or had a grudge against them (though he probably does now).

"But he was happy to call himself a villain during the Meme Factory mini-arc." Yes, but I feel like he's taking the sort of approach where he likes to call himself a villain but doesn't really understand what that means. (The guy grew up in isolation watching TV all day; I wouldn't be surprised if his understanding of "evil" was on par with a Saturday morning cartoon villain.) And the only reason he's doing it is because he's playing the role he feels he's been assigned. After all, SMG4 was the first one to call him a "dime a dozen bad guy," but I don't think he started out wanting to be one. Which is primarily why I think he's not completely irredeemable. I mean he said it himself, he just wanted to make a good TV show.

Went on a little bit of a tangent, but thanks for listening to me pop off. XD And hey, those are just my thoughts. What do you guys think?

Figured I should share this thought with the class

Hope I'm cooking

Not me going back and hyper analyzing Mr.Puzzles episodes to further ramble about how silly he is and just how well written he is

Just how blind is this man to memes? VERY.

VERY BLIND

Like I said in my last post he looks at the Meme Factory and only sees the Comedy Zone bc: Being Funny is how he suspects SMG4 has fame, hes been watching these guys for who knows how long and while they give epic performances in Arcs there is always one key denominator to SMG4 and that is: he makes people laugh

Mr.Puzzles doesnt get it. And another way we can see that is in the Despicable Mr.Puzzles episode where

Notice Shroomy has a NORMAL dog. This is important!! Because in Mr.Puzzles world, his TV safe space where HIS shows go the way he thinks they should... Shroomy having a normal dog is good! So when Mr.Puzzles gets upset at him and transforms his dog into a meme...

Shroomy doesnt react how Mr.Puzzles would want him too bc currently, the man himself is partaking in a Roll. Blinded by the Roll he is in. Playing the Character of Gru... Just like how SMG4 is himself but shifts just enough to fit the roll of like Dora The Explorer? Puzzles cant micromanage the NPCs reactions so

This isnt Shroomy just being dumb

This is shroomy: reacting how he might in Real Life, his dog is now a meme. Cool!! How nice of Mr.Puzzles to make his dog funny!! Itd be nice to have my old dog back but i wont argue the new dog

Bc Shroomy is a bit of a people pleaser he wouldnt show his true feelings on that and again: in this world memes are good. So while Puzzles thinks hes so evil... Hes actually doing Shroomy a TYPE of favour

So why does he Like Leggy then?? You may ask... Shes a Meme as far as any of us are concerned, its cannon too!! On meme island Meggy gets turned into Leggy and is confirmed as a Meme.

Wouldnt Mr.Puzzles find her disgusting? Nope!

He looks at Leggy as a Creature. Because that is how she acts in front of him, Leggy as a meme is a goomba gremlin that acts like a loyal pet to whom cares for her. A silly lil guy

And being a Fresh Made meme, she hasnt hit Mr.Puzzles media radar so chat

He doesnt know.

He just looks at this small gremlin and goes: what an annoying dog lmao time to move on with my life. But then he gets stuck with her and she animols all over the place getting him attached against his will lmao!!

Hes the perfect antagonist for the smg4 universe

A guy who doesnt think memes are funny and infact hates them!! Even after the adventure through the meme factory what is the first thing he does upon hitting the stage?

He tells a dad joke.

His audience: he himself: find that to be the only GOOD source of funny so of course he does that and gets power from it temporarily

And dad jokes are funny lol kill me if u want lol so ofc the camera worked for him.

But the important thing is: he didnt conform to memeage bc bro doesnt get it

And i love that for him

Mr.Puzzles has problems with Emotion/Has Low Empathy

First: I think it is very important to go over what Having Low Empathy means because a lot of people get it confused or simply do not know. So this is just info! ♥️ This top part♥️

•Cognitive empathy is what you do when you stop to think about how someone else might feel in their situation, the whole "how would I feel if this happened to me?" thing. Now, having cognitive empathy doesn't actually say anything about whether someone has or doesn't have low empathy because cognitive empathy is taught, however, there are some people who aren't able to learn it because of the way their brain works; they almost certainly have low empathy.

•Affective empathy, on the other hand, is not taught, it is what causes people to genuinely "feel for others"

It is what most people are referring to when they talk about having low or high empathy, it causes you to experience the same emotion you perceive the person to have. For some, this is only something they experience with people they're close to, some only ever feel it with fictional characters.

•Caring isn't really a form of empathy, but they're sort of related and I feel I should bring it up anyways. To specify, I'm using the definition of

"caring about someone is to be emotionally affected by things that happen to them"

which can be confusing and hard to tell apart from affective empathy sometimes. A friend you care about has something bad happen, so you're sad and then you might mistake that for feeling empathy because you're sad and they're sad, "so that must make it empathy, right?" when in actuality, the cause of your sadness was the bad thing happening to a person you like, not the fact they're sad.

-Fun Facts given to me by my friend @femboi-rayne , thanks for helping me further understand this subject homie!

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Now why do I think, Mr.Puzzles has low empathy?

Section A:

When Leggy saves him from drowning in the Monster Energy River the first thing he does is scold her for invading his personal space; This is his autism being quirky bc as we all know it is VERY easy to put one thing above the other

And Leggy frowns HARD... He reacts but doesn't seem to fully understand the weight of his actions. He has studied facial expressions so knows she is upset, but with how QUICK he is to brush it off like it is nothing... He does not understand WHY she is upset, he did not think to himself

" how would I feel, If I rescued someone and they scolded me as their first action? "

Because simply he does not think that way, he cannot think that way. He doesn't want Leggy to be hurt however the easiest way for him to defend her, is physically, as he can see it happening in front of him and act on it. Pain is an easy sign to see, as is danger so when she is in danger he acts fast and accordingly. When it comes to hurting her feelings, he stumbles over his wording, says things wrong, pauses like hes trying to think about it but ultimately doesnt know how to.

Prime example B:

The whole interaction with Luigi is GOLDEN example of how he has Low Empathy.

Some of you might say 'oh Mr.Puzzles is a villain so he was mean to Luigi on purpose!'

To that I say: you are wrong ♥️

Mr.Puzzles has NO reason to be mean towards Luigi right now as the man in green is currently a Blockade to the next room. Luigi is the gatekeeper to the next door, and Mr.Puzzles is genuinely TRYING to be nice in his own quirky way.

His logical way of thinking is to tell Luigi that: I'm not here to harm you" and that will let him pass!!

However Luigi gets upset and requests Mr.Puzzles to turn him into a meat mallet, as only he can do this feat. The TV man is upset his plan didnt work but also he looks at Luigi and does not think to himself "if i tell Luigi that I will not turn him into a meat mallet, he will get mad"

He thinks: oh I can't do this, better tell the truth.

Thus why he thinks: he did nothing wrong.

I told the truth to the guy, what did he want from me?? Why didn't he let me pass, I was a good boy!! He wasn't actively trying to be evil, he NEEDED to get past Luigi and failed bc he cant do conversations.

And the adventure he has with Leggy ISNT about him becoming a Nicer Person nahhh. He still wants to take over the world and be popular lolol!

The episode is about Leggy pushing his boundaries in and Teaching him about empathy ....somewhat.... Theres only so much he can learn about How to Empathise and it doesnt help that he is an emotional wreck.

He doesnt know how to accept the fact this little gremlin is being nice to him... Because she likes him. It does not click in his 4head, and the episode is dedicated to her teaching him that Hey: im here for you bc I Like you. Not because im following orders you dummy/pos.

Her way of showing him- violence... Isnt the HEALTHY way to show him but ill look at it as playful animal time like a dog playing tug of war with your pants ♥️

When hes already not that confident with emotions it's going to be much harder for him to learn how to think before he speaks. And even if he does learn this, he will not be on the same level as anyone else in the SMG4 crew. Low Empathy, it can be a struggle! He'll keep messing up and accidentally offending people, but he'll be trying his best.

That is: if he gets a redemption arc

•which i personally hope he doesnt bc i love him the way he is but at the same time moving from being an awkward villain to an awkward friend would be adorable

(📺🖤📺🖤📺🖤📺🖤📺🖤📺🖤📺🖤📺🖤)

Mr. Puzzles has manufactured everything about himself, including his voice: (A long post!! 📺)

A thing I've noticed is just how often his voice changes, most notably when he's switching from his deeper narrator voice to his more energetic showman voice in the promo trailer. ^^^

Here's another example from the song. Both lines are said in two distinct voices, none of them being the usual one we hear from him. One has a more pronounced Transatlantic accent and the other has an American one. We can assume someone else is talking and he just overlays himself on top, but he is explicitly the one shown to speak in that moment. ^^^

This next one might be a stretch, but I think the supporting female vocals could be him as well. It is heavily implied he works alone and doesn't trust others with his vision so it kinda makes sense that he would also sing the song on his own. (If that's true damn does he have a good voice) ^^^

Even the critical podcast host could be him. The first voice is deeper and rougher while the second is more sly and has a distinct influxion that is unique to Puzzles, so they could be just his inner thoughts and insecurities audibly manifesting through some complicated technical means.

He is alone in his office, staring at all the monitors that display his hard work. And he is not satisfied. His mind begins to wander and his self doubt begins to manifest out loud in the form of others criticizing him, further fueling his crippling perfectionism. ^^^

Also here, when his lifelong dream is finally met he can't contain his (ever so slightly malicious) glee, and his voice deepens and begins to glitch out. ^^^

Also a bit unrelated but did y'all notice that when he says 'crying' he is shown with his crazy big smile? You know, his main expression on all the promotional material.

Conclusion?

I think his upbeat showman voice isn't how he usually sounds, but what he thinks others would like him to sound like. He has to keep up the energy that the audience has come to expect of him so he manufactured the perfect tv host voice to keep as many tuned in as possible.

I headcanon his real voice to be deeper, raspier and very monotone. I think that while he was smoking he had to turn off his voice synthesizer so the smoke won't damage it, which is why he doesn't talk in the scene. He has lost every bit of himself by molding into what he thinks people would like, and any reminder that he was once someone else makes him uncomfortable.

I'm going insane chat.

Whats with people simping for him now?

I HATE HOW HE'S SO PERFECT WHAT-

Being silly.

SIKE! THIS WAS AN AD FOR MY NEW FIC THE WHOLE TIME. Boy I had you fooled. Anywho, here’s the summary along with the tags.

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Relationships: SMG3 & SMG4 (SuperMarioGlitchy4)

Characters: SMG4 (SuperMarioGlitchy4), SMG3 (SuperMarioGlitchy4), Mr. Puzzles (SuperMarioGlitchy4), Bob Bobowski (SMG4), Fishy Boopkins (SMG4), Meggy Spletzer (SuperMarioGlitchy4), Tari (SuperMarioGlitchy4), Luigi (Nintendo)

Additional Tags: Little Mr. Puzzles is very important to me, Cannon typical shenanigans, SMG34 if you squint, Relationships aren't the focus tho, Takes place in the middle of the Puzzlevision movie, Little Puzzles is like 11 to me and will be written as such, May have projected my adhd onto him a tad, No beta we die like Axol did, Angst, Relatively new to the fandom, Anon is on because I'm a nervous person, The SMGs and Mini Puzzles are the main focus

Summary:

SMG4 and 3 escape one channel, just to be hit completely off track and fall into a seemingly endless void.

After meeting the floor, they find themselves in a room with a shadow like memory of a child, who is ecstatic to have finally made some friends.

If you’ve been wanting to see more Mini Puzzles centered fics like me, then consider reading.

And as much as I like thinking of interactions between Mini Puzzles and Mr. Puzzles, they won’t be seeing each other in the fic for a while 😔

🎵She said she’s from an island🎵

kabru and laios

This is gonna help me a lot with my au of tsams

thank you

Hello!! I'm trying to catch up to the TSAMS and LAES but I also know the Monty and Foxy show also has lore?? It's been like two months and skipping through each channel gets--idk, frustrating after a bit that I just stuck to TSAMS. Do you know if there's some sort of playlist that just has the VR chat lore episodes that exists somewhere or do you just go through each channel?

Someone on the sever linked me this WIP document!

Why is sun killing everyone??

I've seen some theories that Moon could have a virus making him go ballistic and/or they'll use time travel to fix this, theories, and frankly, I have no clue how this arc is going to resolve because so much has gone irreversibly wrong, do you have any theories?

A LOT.

-I think Sun's going to steal Monty's ships or something (I'm pretty sure they still have those somewhere) and try to get Moon. The thing that Moon's always said is that him and Sun are a packaged deal.

-Sun's going to just....give up. I'm not sure what happened to Solar's Sun but that might happen where he just stops moving and then everyone's going to freak out.

-Lunar goes out to find Moon and brings him home only to find that Sun is trying to rip off Puppet's head and steal their powers. Kills Foxy and Monty, and then goes insane.

-Dark Sun goes to Sun while he's crying over Moon and offers him his help. Or Sun goes to him. Things go horribly wrong and he goes insane, kills Dark Sun and then goes to kill everyone else.

-Dark Sun and Sun get together and either become brothers (doubtful) and just spend the rest of their days as Dark Sun is his new Moon while New Moon tried to get him back.

-Dark Sun and Sun get together, kidnap Lunar, kill Monty and end up becoming a god after sacrificing Ruin and Eclipse but Lunar manages to escape and tries to stop Sun.

-Sun becomes Jason and tries to kill everyone.

It's kind of odd how other Eclipse's or Sun's look at this version of Sun and seem to like him more. Ruin and Dark Sun seem to care about him in some way.

But why? What's so different about this Sun? In some way it's like they almost pity him...?

So, Ruin would rather have Solar die instead of Sun. I mean he did hang out with Sun more so that makes sense. He's always liked him.

I'm gonna make this au but I do I want to do a redesign and make the timeline more clear because this confession did change little and when I least get the basics of it, I will do more posts about it

Also, sun at some points will be in a coma and and get 2 designs in this au

Do what, you want to do, with this information

ok I want to talk about my AU for the sun and moon show I hope you don't mind and please be nice this is just for fun.

In this AU everything kind of starts off very the same where Sun and Moon separated, but Eclipse was found out much earlier.

For how early I would say 2 weeks after the July 16 incidents

Sun was the first person who knew about him and later talk to him ( I'm not exactly sure how cause this is kind of working progress story, so my apologies)

Sun convince Eclipse that they could share the body. He will have one day of control of the body and the next day eclipse gets control of the body

But Sun didn't tell Moon about Eclipse because he is scared on how he will react to eclipse and the July 16 incident

And now we're gonna have time skip to one month later

During this time Eclipse has been trying to make a neutralizer for Blood Moon and the reason why he is doing this is because of his blood lust if he wasn't so focus on it, he could be useful

Eclipse hasn't told Sun about blood moon. I'll say the main reason for this is his ego. there is more but but he won't admit that

Moon has began to get more suspicious of Sun like why he keep on forgetting things and why he has been acting different, why he has been leaving their room at night and coming back with bloody hands or when he hasn't come out of their room for a whole day

When he finally confronted Sun about it and he threatening him that if he doesn't tell the truth he is going to hurt him-

This is it for now there are things I need to think more about it This unfinished, there is going more after this and I might make a part 2 about it who knows

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hot artists don't gatekeep

I've been resource gathering for YEARS so now I am going to share my dragons hoard

Floorplanner. Design and furnish a house for you to use for having a consistent background in your comic or anything! Free, you need an account, easy to use, and you can save multiple houses.

Comparing Heights. Input the heights of characters to see what the different is between them. Great for keeping consistency. Free.

Magma. Draw online with friends in real time. Great for practice or hanging out. Free, paid plan available, account preferred.

Smithsonian Open Access. Loads of free images. Free.

SketchDaily. Lots of pose references, massive library, is set on a timer so you can practice quick figure drawing. Free.

SculptGL. A sculpting tool which I am yet to master, but you should be able to make whatever 3d object you like with it. free.

Pexels. Free stock images. And the search engine is actually pretty good at pulling up what you want.

Figurosity. Great pose references, diverse body types, lots of "how to draw" videos directly on the site, the models are 3d and you can rotate the angle, but you can't make custom poses or edit body proportions. Free, account option, paid plans available.

Line of Action. More drawing references, this one also has a focus on expressions, hands/feet, animals, landscapes. Free.

Animal Photo. You pose a 3d skull model and select an animal species, and they give you a bunch of photo references for that animal at that angle. Super handy. Free.

Height Weight Chart. You ever see an OC listed as having a certain weight but then they look Wildly different than the number suggests? Well here's a site to avoid that! It shows real people at different weights and heights to give you a better idea of what these abstract numbers all look like. Free to use.

I haven't been posted in s while, so here's bitter giggles.

Greetings bugs and worms!

This comic is a little different than what I usually do but I worked real hard on it—Maybe I'll make more infographic stuff in the future this ended up being fun. Hope you learned something new :)

If you are still curious and want to learn more about OCD, you can visit the International OCD Foundation's website. I also recommend this amazing TED ED video "Starving The Monster", which was my first introduction to the disorder and this video by John Green about his own experience with OCD.

The IOCDF's website can also help you find support groups, therapy, and has lots of online guides and resources as well if you or a loved one is struggling with the disorder. It is very comprehensive!

Reblog to teach your followers about OCD

(But also not reblogging doesn't make you evil, silly goose)

I am sorry for not posting

I just don't know what to post

So here my poem

It is called

"Beauty Is Pointless"

I got bored, so I thought to make a poem

Sorry if it not the best

Here Monty and Moon

They are happy for now

I am working on something that you all might in joy this

Or that is what I hope

🐻🌟-Here's our loveable bear Freddy-🌟🐻

He is very kind bear

He will put another before him

He is the star of the show

He is loved by everybody

But deep down inside

He is just an animatronic

He has no feeling

Even for the ones he loves most

He doesn't understand them

He just say he does

🐊🤠-And our next animatronic is mo- wait a minute -🤠🐊

this is an old picture of him

where is the I got for this one

No what a change of plans

Monty here was one of coolest thing I have ever met

But now, he has a hot temper

He is also a big fan of Bonnie

He is friendly with one of the daycare attendance which is a surprise

He was not special but look at him now he is finding a star

🌟~Here some art for you~🌟

The next redesign for "Working Together" will come and I will give you guys more information on Sun and Moon

🌟-Fun fact Sun is my favorite out of everyone-🌟

🌙🌟-The next one is Moondrop-🌟🌙

They are non-binary

They have a big obsession with cats

To a point they acts like a cat sometimes, and when you ask them about it they will say "It is none of your business"

They are the ones who are a charge of getting them to sleep and dose security work

They are friends with DJ, Freddy and Chica

But Their favorite person is Sunny

And their least favourite person is Monty

🌟-Here's a fun fact-🌟

His creator Sumerian Eclipse

Has work on Sun and Moon ever since 2012

He has said in a Intenrveiw "Sunny here is one of my great creation, I have ever made, just look at her, she is beautiful"

"What about Moon?"

"Oh them, they aren't the best like sunny over here, but they were rush"

"Oh really?"

Yay it was just the time I was given, isn't that right moon"

"Yes, you are right sir"

"How how long did it take to make them?"

"I think I have been working on them since 2012"

I love the art it is so pretty >X3

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