Birders: Do You Ever Wonder If This Happens?

I guess people just see Leia hogging all the braincells between them and instantly put Luke as Ken. There's no other explanation.

That is an objective part of the problem and why some people are so mad.

It is not about some ship, like Destiel shippers wouldn't even blink if they didn't get 15x18. The show did not address the ship? Sad, but ok fine, whatever, never expected anything else, thank you very much.

But no, they had to go and do 15x18 and then just expected what exactly? That we MIB flash ourselves? That there won't be any consequences?

LGBTQA+ theme is important to the society nowadays so you don't mess with it. Do not go there if you are not making a statement and aren't ready for repercussions. It is a highly irresponsible action and is really bad for ratings in the long run as we can see now.

Let's just see how many people the cw managed to get mad?

The LGBTQA+ community.

The Destiel shippers.

The Castiel fans.

Parts of Dean and Sam fans who wanted better end for them.

Other groups of fans whose characters didn't make it to the finale for literally no reason whatsoever.

The spn fans who were there for Found Family and Free Will messages.

The writers and editors community who knew those messages and are generally like wtf did you do with your storyline in that last episode, there so many contradictions and plotholes, bruh.

Other people with common sense who can guess that when after 15 years you get to see only 2.5 main characters in the finale it means something went wrong.

Who did like it?

Strange people who says that the shows was about two brothers only? No offense but literally just do not understand how found family trop went over your head when it was repeatedly explicitly said by cast and everyone involved like?? Literally in the 15x21 for example??? No there are clearly nothing in 15x20 that is about found family???? Just how??? The power of denial I guess.

The Wincest shippers. With full respect for these people I say that they deserved it for being baited even longer than Destiel shippers. But I consider it questionable tastes to prefer the bad written ending with your ship being baited yet again or even going cannon over a good written one. Trust me, I'm speaking from experience, I was in this situation before and it's not worth it.

The anti-destiel shippers who are so sick of hellers they are acting out of spite.

And the anti-lgbtqa+ community who do exactly the same thing as onti-destielers.

And the CW. Maybe. I guess they are not sure now)

I am sure I forgot some communities for all this, both liked/disliked the ending and were influenced by it, please feel free to add :)

Destielgate

I think the weirdest thing about this Destielgate is that some people act as if this is drama exclusively for hardcore Destiel shippers. It certainly is not. I’m not apart of the supernatural fandom, but how supernatural handled Destiel seriously affects me as someone of the LGBTQ+ community. In fact, it affects literally anyone who understands the significance of Destiel.  None of my friends watch supernatural, and yet everyday we talk about the newest Destielgate updates and every single day we talk about how ridiculous it is that they are trying to cover up the Spanish dub and how hurt we are that queer characters are being treated like this. 

I get updates about Destielgate from my queer discord book club where only like, 2 people have watched supernatural and none are actually dedicated fans of Supernatural. Despite all this we have in depth conversations about what is going on and trade the information we have discovered and we all are basically waiting in suspense to see what is going to happen to Destiel. Because how this ends, affects all of us. I feel like the episode writers, or CW, or whoever was in charge of this did not fully understand the impact of having lead characters of an extremely popular tv show come out as queer. I feel like they truly had no idea what they were getting into and no idea how important it was to the LGBTQ+ community that it is handled well. Because when I say queer representation saves lives? It LITERALLY saves lives but depending on how you handle it, it could have the opposite affect.

What truly baffles me is that Destiel did not need to become canon. Destiel shippers would have ben relatively fine with the ship not sailing because that is the nature of ships; they are almost never canonized. But they decided to make it canon in the most homophobic way possible. Yes, any representation is good, but what some do not understand is that a character declaring his love, not having his love reciprocated, immediately getting sent to Mega Turbo Super Hell (the empty) and then never being mentioned again except in a throw away line? Never being grieved over? Never having any resolution? these things that happened after the confession was a rapid devaluing of a character that was apparently very important before that episode. As soon as he declared his love for Dean, he was stripped of the value that the show had been putting on him. Castiel, a character who was well loved and an integral part of the storyline suddenly does not matter to people who previously would have died and/or killed for him right after he declared his love for Dean? That is where the problem lies. That rapid devaluing of Castiel as a character sends a clear message to any queer person watching the show: they do not matter. They are not valued or wanted and its better to stay silent than to speak your truth. It is better to be a closeted gay than openly queer because when you come out you could lose everything.

Yet another Bury Your Gays ™ trope (with the huge chance of there being queer censorship) is the business of literally all of us in the LGBTQ+ community. This is not about a Supernatural ship anymore, it is about whether or not blatant homophobia and queer censorship will continue to go unchecked. It is about whether big companies will decide that queer lives are more important than money. It is about the LGBTQ+ community no longer being something inconveniencing, but rather something precious.  

YES

I didn't even notice until op said it!

When I was watching that one scene in Avengers it felt so gross, I was immediately disgusted and had such a strong urge to turn it off and forgetforgetforget and pretend I didn't see anything. I guess it worked cause op made me remember it, but if I was asked out of nowhere what the worst show off feminism have you ever seen in cinema I wouldn't be able to tell. The Trauma. Ugh.

Anyway, again, I didn't really see that as something exceptional. It felt so normal and natural to me.

Usually I do pick up on BAD performance and all this bullshit female characters just for check. They don't have a story. They feel empty and unnecessary. The only quality that is important for the story with them is their sex/gender. Or there is nothing important for the story at all.

The point is the Mandalorian did a great job. Its female characters never felt bad like that. That fight included. The performance was good as expected. Therefore it never clicked as something special in modern social media. WHILE IT CERTAINLY IS. It is special!

Because right off the bat I can only remember Hannibal was such quality female writing where the were just right. Tbc it also depends on shows writing and perfomance level in general, so there are some more, but imho they are written less great in general.

And the amount of good female writing is truly saddening yet the good news are it grows! With time there is and will be even more great stuff!!

Non-performative inclusion and “The Mandalorian”

This post contains minor spoilers. Proceed with caution.

In the season two finale of “The Mandalorian” there is a scene near the beginning of the episode in which a strike team (minus Mando himself) storms onto an Imperial ship, blasts stormtroopers, etc. It’s an extended action sequence. Two of the characters are helmeted.

I was well into the scene before it hit me that all four of the characters on this strike team were women.

The fact that there was this all-female action team wasn’t new. I’ve seen that before. What was new about it was that this was the first time I’d seen a team of women that didn’t feel performative.

Remember that scene in “Avengers: Endgame”, the “she’s not alone” scene where All The Lady Characters Assembled, and you could tell the filmmakers were getting some kind of weird boner of “looooook at how many Strong Female Characters we have, let’s put them all together and have them be Strong Female Characters at the same time” and it felt super gross? That was performative.

I’ve heard and used that term before but I’m not sure I really grokked what it meant until I saw what its absence looked like, in “The Mandalorian.” 

It didn’t feel performative because each of those characters had been part of the narrative in their own time over the previous two seasons, with their own agencies and backstories. They were characters in the story as it needed to be told, they weren’t Strong Female Characters introduced for the purpose of being that (in a sexy way, of course). There was never a sense of ticking off the “kickass lady character” boxes. When Cara Dune is introduced, or Fennec Shand, or Bo-Katan, there was never that subtext of “Okay here is our Lady Character, isn’t she such a great Lady Character, look look we’re Doing the Thing you want us to do with having Womens in our Boy Stuff.”

No. It was, here’s a Rebel soldier. Here’s an assassin. Here’s a Mandalorian exile.  Here’s a Jedi. Here’s a magistrate. They have functions to perform and stories to tell in this narrative. Those functions and stories happen while these characters are women, not because they are women.

And it’s so, so subtle, the difference. It’s hard to put your finger on how it’s usually done wrong until you see it done right. It’s not just the writing although that’s a big part of it. It’s in how they were filmed, framed, shot, costumed, and lit. It’s in how they were directed, how the camera treated them - i.e. no differently than the male characters. None of these women were sexified, either. Not that they weren’t being portrayed by attractive women, but that wasn’t remotely played up or displayed in how they were styled, costumed, and made up.

Unfortunately now that we’ve all seen how non-performative inclusion of women into a narrative can be done right, everything else is going to seem that much more insufferable.

Well, speaking from my experience if in doubt of following then don't.

If it's relevant to the tumblr society then you will always know what's going on regardless of your personal likes and dislikes. We are a single being in that regard and there is no escape.

If it's relevant to you specifically then you can wait and see if it will come back to your dashboard again through other users who you already firmly decided to follow and what it will bring to you.

And of course there is the number of blogs you follow to consider. Is there a chance you will ever see their posts on your dash? Cause there's no hope for mine, okay. Today is a SW spam day apparently and yesterday were knitting spam day and sometime in the past month i survived weirdnessisgood milk spam for 2 days in a row. There was nothing except milk in the worst ways possible you have to understand. Turns out there is so many disturbing milk drinking images on the internet. I'm lactose intolerant. That was hell.

Anyway, the point is you can follow and never see them again. Which is absolutely fine. You can still follow someone passive aggressively and never see or interact with their posts.

Or you can follow and see what will be posted. If it's good stay, if it's bad unfollow, if it's nothing forget and find out you did so in a year and be hit by nostalgia of 5th of November 2022 the Second Grand Destiel Putin US Election day when some Ryan Reynolds joined us. Decide to still follow passive-aggressively and silently demand posts.

So. To follow or not to follow?

Any option is great.

my thoughts on the Ryan Reynolds account is that no one should follow him so he earns his follows by posting his deranged thoughts, quotes, gifs, fandom incorrect quotes, or never blocking the bots like everyone else in here.

Thank you for everything

Describe a fanfic that changed you in the tags

Beautiful Beautiful Tags

do you have a favourite cool bug? can you share any pictures?

I really like the one that's fucking up the tags right now

Like this. Its such a funny bug

Yesterday was destiel-trends-day, right?

But today is destiel-trends-day, too!

me seeing destiel or supernatural trending for like the 100th time since november

I wish I was a muppet so I could flail uncontrollably with no consequences. And for the scrunch

That Ben Affleck was Adele all this time has left me amazed. Truly his greatest role.

The Tumblr Trauma

I-is that….