Sanctuary And Loki's "adoption"

Sanctuary and Loki's "adoption"

I can’t believe I didn’t think of this before now, but… Odin said he found Loki in the temple in Jotunheimr. Of course that didn’t fit very well with his claim of Loki being abandoned there, buutt…

What if the Jotun had some concept like the old Christian “Sanctuary”, in which holy places were refuges where even the bitterest enemy could not touch you or force you out? (Not without risking their soul, as the lore had it.) Even when babies were abandoned to sanctuary it was specifically so they would not die, so that they would be kept safe until a home was found for them.

If that’s the case, then the explanation for Loki being there could have been totally different from what Odin claimed: he could have been put there in hopes of keeping him safe. In the midst of an attack by bitter foes like the Aesir such a move would make perfect sense, the only flaw being the assumption that the Aesir would know and respect the sanctuary.

If that was true, then the best case scenario for Odin is that he found baby Loki and just didn’t know Jotun custom enough to understand why the infant was there. It would show a woeful lack of knowledge of their enemies’ customs, but sadly it’s not very farfetched that he might be so ignorant of their culture, considering the blatant contempt many Asgardians exhibited toward frost giants.

Unfortunately it’s more likely he did know (witness the fact that he knew whose child Loki was) and simply took the child anyway.

So if the Jotun rules are anything like the old church rules - which they’d pretty well have to be just to make the sanctuary concept work - then going in the temple and taking Loki out of it was one of the vilest things Odin could do. Even on the scale of war crimes it would be, well, monstrous.

Yet we’re supposed to believe that Loki is the monster in the House of Odin?

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it is appalling to me how impossible it is to talk to my parents about the palestinian-israeli war. my dad is catholic irishman, and my mom is ashkenazi jewish from poland. i am an only child. we are agnostic. both sides of my family have experienced genocide.

one of my relatives in ireland once had a hatchet thrown at him for being catholic, my grandad was once fired after less than three hours on a job because they found out he is catholic. my great-grandma on my mom's side is the only known survivor of the holocaust in my family.

yet, as soon as the palestinian-israeli war started, such historical context was tossed aside in order to put "democracy" up on a pillar.

i am angry, i am sad, and i just wish that there were people out there that i could talk with who would understand me and my views.


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4 months ago

For any relocated TikTok users

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If you don't have a profile picture people will assume you're a bot

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Neocities Guide - Why You Should Build Your Own Html Website

neocities guide - why you should build your own html website

do you miss the charm of the 90s/00s web where sites had actual personality instead of the same minimalistic theme? are you feeling drained by social media and the constant corporate monopoly of your data and time? do you want to be excited about the internet again? try neocities!!

what is neocities?

neocities is a free hosting website that lets you build your own html website from scratch, with total creative control. in their own words: "we are tired of living in an online world where people are isolated from each other on boring, generic social networks that don't let us truly express ourselves. it's time we took back our personalities from these sterilized, lifeless, monetized, data mined, monitored addiction machines and let our creativity flourish again."

why should I make my own website?

web3 has been overtaken by capitalism & conformity. websites that once were meant to be fun online social spaces now exist solely to steal your data and sell you things. it sucks!! building a personal site is a great way to express yourself and take control of your online experience.

what would I even put on a website?

the best part about making your own site is that you can do literally whatever the hell you want! focus on a specific subject or make it a wild collection of all your interests. share your art! make a shrine for one of your interests! post a picture of every bird you see when you step outside! make a collection of your favorite blinkies! the world is your oyster !! here are some cool example sites to inspire you: recently updated neocities sites | it can be fun to just look through these and browse people's content! space bar | local interstellar dive bar creature feature | halloween & monsters big gulp supreme peanutbuttaz | personal site dragodiluna linwood | personal site patho grove | personal site

getting started: neocities/html guide

sound interesting? here are some guides to help you get started, especially if you aren't familiar with html/css sadgrl.online webmastery | a fantastic resource for getting started with html & web revival. also has a layout builder that you can use to start with in case starting from scratch is too intimidating web design in 4 minutes | good for learning coding basics w3schools | html tutorials templaterr | demo & html for basic web elements eggramen test pages | css page templates to get started with sadgrl background tiles | bg tiles rivendell background tiles | more free bg tiles

fun stuff to add to your site

want your site to be cool? here's some fun stuff that i've found blinkies-cafe | fantastic blinkie maker! (run by @transbro & @graphics-cafe) gificities | internet archive of 90s/00s web gifs internet bumper stickers | web bumper stickers momg | gif gallery 99 gif shop | 3d gifs 123 guestbook | add a guestbook for people to leave messages cbox | add a live chat box moon phases | track the phases of the moon gifypet | a little clickable page pet adopt a shroom | mushroom page pet tamaNOTchi | virtual pet crossword puzzle | daily crossword imood | track your mood neko | cute cat that chases your mouse pollcode | custom poll maker website hit counter | track how many visitors you have

web revival manifestos & communities

also, there's actually a pretty cool community of people out there who want to bring joy back to the web! melonland project | web project/community celebrating individual & joyful online experiences. Also has an online forum melonland intro to web revival | what is web revival? melonking manifesto | status cafe | share your current status nightfall city | online community onio.cafe | leave a message and enjoy the ambiance sadgrl internet manifesto | yesterweb internet manifesto | sadly defunct, still a great resource reclaiming online social spaces | great manifesto on cultivating your online experience

in conclusion

i want everyone to make a neocities site because it's fun af and i love seeing everyone's weird personal sites that they made outside of the control of capitalism :) say hi to me on neocities

EDIT: part 2!!

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6 months ago

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8 months ago

super late to the party here, but honestly all i wanted out of the loki series was at least neutral rep for genderfluidity/bisexualtiy for loki, maybe have sigyn make an appearance, and learn more about loki's time with thanos/in the void. the only thing on this list i got was loki's sex being "fluid", and the mention of bisexuality that is undermined in the same episode its introduced by having loki fall in love with sylvie

this is obviously not to say that opposite sex relationships can't happen, but i feel as if it continues the false belief from biphobic people that bisexuals just "havent found the right person yet," usually in relation to the opposite gender rather than a same-sex pairing. once i knew sigyn wasnt gonna be introduced and his bi orientation was confirmed, i was really looking forward to him having an mlm pairing, but instead, he got pushed with sylvie

I Intentionally Start Shit in the Loki Tag

If you complain about Sylvie being "harmful queer rep" BUT want "Lady Loki" in the MCU, which was Loki possessing Sif's body just to torment Sif, I need you to sit down and shut up. a. Genderfluid people don't go by "Lady " when they're femme or women. b. If you don't see the transphobic dogwhistles in the comics possession subplot, I don't know what to tell you... But let's say that hag that wrote those crappy books would love it. c. If you weren't aware about this, maybe you should read the wiki at least before giving uninformed opinions.

I definitely agree that they should not have led people on with the promise of genderfluid rep during the promotion of the series. But get mad at Disney/Marvel for that. Not at the writers or Sophia Di Martino that had to cave in to Feige's demands. That's literally what they have to do.

I really don't give a damn about the "autogynephilia" allegations, which again, is ALSO PRESENT IN CIS WOMEN. Like why the fuck should I care about someone finding themselves hot? There's fascists out there. AGP even if it was a trans-specific thing harms no one. The only harm said to come from it is DUE TO FASCISM because it plays into RESPECTABILITY POLITICS.

If you use AI to create a "proper" Lady Loki or love interest for Loki, you can't complain about the blatant product placement in S2. I am not a fan of product placement either and won't defend it, but those are the rules. Show some integrity. And before you ask, I have not given a cent to Disney since they pissed me off with attempts to trademark Dia de los Muertos for Coco.

If you complain about how being a "Loki" is not a role (unlike Spiderman) and how it should have been all 100% Tom Hiddleston, you don't get to call it selfcest as a gotcha, because you're already differentiating between the variants with different DNA. Like do y'all hate selfcest or not? Make up your mind. The series treats a Loki as an archetype of sorts, so it can be a role. Also, having the same name does not make you related because we don't know what Sylvie's parents are? And we don't even know if Sylvie is also a Jotun, a prop claims she isn't.

If you say you want Sylvie dead but claim to not be misogynistic, because you'd love if a specific love interest from the comics or mythology replaced her, STFU. You only like those because you can project whatever the fuck you want onto them.

If you claim Sylvie is a misogynistic depiction of women but salivate over characters written by cishet white men in the 1960s-1980s that made wanting to fuck Thor or being in a monogamous marriage with Loki their entire personality (there's so MANY OF THESE), STFU. Do you hear yourself? And no, it's not misogynistic of me, a woman, to criticize offensive depictions of women by cishet white men. They're not real.

Our MCU!Loki is not the young adult Ikol reincarnation currently. Of course 20-something Verity is not going to be there! The Loki show should be praise for having multiple female cast members around the same age as the protagonist and pragmatic clothing choices that allowed SdM to nurse her baby.

Selfcest isn't real and I cry tears of boredom whenever someone clutches their pearls over it.

The comics aren't perfect. As much as I loved the recent Dan Watters run (and German Peralta's art), the comics art has some very questionable tendencies, especially regarding Loki's nose when she's femme. It's associated with how some kinds of facial features are considered masculine or feminine (and racialized). Noses have no gender, ffs! Women with nose bumps exist! For some reason Loki always has a tiny button nose when she's a woman or femme. There's also the BLATANT physiognomy that has ALWAYS PLAGUED Thor comics since their inception, and Loki's facial features as they've become more "grey" and less evil is an interesting study. Peralta's far from being the only artist with this problem, and is far from being the most problematic. For comparison from Loki (2023) run:

I Intentionally Start Shit In The Loki Tag
I Intentionally Start Shit In The Loki Tag

Loki from ye olden days:

I Intentionally Start Shit In The Loki Tag
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1 year ago

GUYS GUYS GUYS THE BOTS ARE GETTING SMARTER

THEY'RE GETTING SMARTER I JUST GOT ONE THAT ACTUALLY HAD A POST

(i mean it was a p0rn post so i knew it was a bot but abyways)

THE BOTS ARE GETTING SMARTER


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1 year ago

Hi! Can you explain waiting rooms please? Like how to script them, what they do, etc

Hello friend!! I sure can ☺️ (long post incoming)

What is a Waiting Room?

A waiting room (or WR) is a (non-mandatory) place that you can script to shift to and it’s a sort of in between for your CR and DR. You usually shift to your WR to kind of collect your thoughts and get ready to fully enter your DR. A lot of times your WR is a simple and rather empty room that just has you in it. (It can include whatever you want I’m just giving an idea)  And a lot of people have a door in their waiting room that they can open and step into their DR “portal”

Why do people use Waiting Rooms? 

As mentioned above, WR are a space to calm down and “process” your shifting before continuing into your DR. It helps people not feel so startled by just opening their eyes and being DIRECTLY in the action of their DR. Also, for some people, visualizing a single room is a lot easier than your whole DR world.

How do you script a Waiting Room?

I mention this a lot (but I know newer shifters don’t always know this) but scripting is NOT necessary to shift. It is a helpful tool to organize your thoughts, just like methods are, but you do not 100% need one in order to shift. If you do still want to write a script for your WR, it can be whatever you want! It could be simple bullet points with description of the room, it could be a single paragraph, it could be a drawing, ANYTHING!  Whatever helps you visualize or however you like to set up your script is what you should do!

Thanks for the ask and I hope this helps!! If you have any other questions, send them my way!!! 


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4 months ago

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"and what if the world was made of pudding" for when would this ever matter.

"and sharks are smooth both ways" for a group of people heatedly arguing with 1 guy who is fucking with them all

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