Genuinely, There Is Nothing Wrong With A Trans Guy Headcanoning A Female Character As A Trans Man. We’re

Look i don’t know where i personally stand on wether transandrophobia is a good useful term or not. But i’ve learned more valuable information about trans men/mascs (that was delivered in a genuine and kind manner) from people who use that term, than i ever have from people who despise the use of transandrophobia.

Hell i’m starting to get to a point where (even though i don’t know how to feel about the etimology) folks that hate it are getting a tentative red flag, because none of them seem to be able to be normal about trans masculine people.

Seriously if yalls first reaction to a trans masc mildly disagreeing with you or having a different interpretation about something is to immediately be a transphobic bully to all trans mascs then you are just kind of an asshole, regardless of if you’re “technically” right about the hill you’re willing to drag all of us through the mud on.

Rat from Pathologic Classic HD on a Transgender flag background

Taught to diminish ourselves as little girls, taught to diminish ourselves as trans people, when will trans men be allowed to speak for ourselves. To tell our own stories.

women (including trans and/or queer women) have the capacity to be misogynistic towards trans men. we are being treated as if we are little girls on this app. the word "transmisogyny" is something i see a lot more than the word "transphobia" recently. while it's okay and encouraged to talk about transmisogyny, i feel like trans men are being excluded for no reason on many posts. experiences that are actually had by all/most trans people are said to be exclusive to trans women. so then we try for transandrophobia and get shut down because trans men can't be oppressed, apparently. usually, i try to educate myself and listen as much as possible, but it's been monthssssss of this on tumblr. i feel like i'm being spoon-fed lessons on my own oppression, and i can't get down from the high chair...

I notice that I‘m scared to even speak about this issue sometimes. I feel like a coward. Idk what to do about it, because I can’t just keep quiet when I hear people just straight up deny transmasc oppression. But I already know their reaction. They will not take me seriously. They will twist my words. They will double down and ignore the evidence. Even when I show them literal statistics of SA in transmascs, somehow that doesn’t matter.

what the fuck

the fact a lot of trfs are MLs is further proof Marxist-Leninists are just fascists trying to redirect socialist efforts away from destroying the bourgeoisie

You know, I'm sure that's a possible valid reason for all the rebrands, but I don't think that matters when you are actively also dodging the ban you deserve for telling marginalized folks to kill themselves.

Just make sure you've got her blocked.

yikes.

so i lurked a bit in 4chan trans spaces to see what's it all about...

"passoid" "softboi" "theyfab" "pooner" "dood" "brickhon" "troon" "ropefuel" "newfag" "malebrained" "luckshit" "ogremaxxing" "bonepill" i'm begging you to go for a walk anon. please. seriously, with all the sympathy in the world. feel the sun on your face, pet a dog, touch some grass, get therapy. please i'm begging you.

i think words like transandrophobia and transmisogyny are useful in theory, but in practice they drive division and end up harmful to the wider trans struggle. (explanation in simple words at the bottom)

i think it can be useful to have words to describe different flavors of discrimination we face depending on how we are percieved by society. the problem occurs when these words stop being treated as descriptors, and instead get used as labels.

i'm sure you've seen the TMA/TME discourse. TMA = transmisogyny affected, TME = transmisogyny exempt. in practice, these terms are used as "trans women and fems" (TMA) and "everyone else who is trans" (TME). there's a few problems i have with this.

first, as a transneutral person, i would be labeled TME. but the group of drunk dudes who chased me down screaming that i'll never be a real woman, they don't care about that. they see me, a trans person, they assign their own interpretation to my gender presentation, and decide to intimidate me based on their interpretation. i have faced transmisogyny many times, despite some tumblr users insisting i am exempt from it.

second, it puts people back into a rigid binary. as a nonbinary person, i'm well aware of how restrictive and oppressive binaries are, and this one is not any different. even if it's repackaged as trans-friendly, it still denies many people the entirety of their experience and only allows a little, specific part of it.

and third, i simply do not think that any of us in this community are exempt from transmisogyny. in my experience the difference between experiencing transmisogyny or transandrophobia is what the other person percieves me as. if you really wanted to call someone exempt, make it cis people - but also keep in mind that not all of them are. think GNC people, butches, drag queens, the list goes on. i find it difficult to call these people exempt, even if they aren't trans. and i acknowledge that if you're read most of the time as your binary gender (as in you pass, but i strongly dislike that word), you will face much more of one flavor of opression than the other. but taking the experience of only binary trans people who are read as their gender and calling it universal is incredibly exorsexist. most of us will have experienced both.

all these flavors of discrimination, transmisogyny, transandrophobia, even exorsexism and intersexism, it all stems from the same narrow bioessentialist understanding of sex and gender as strictly binary.

in conclusion, i think words like transmisogyny and transandrophobia can be useful to describe experiences with different flavors of anti-trans bigotry. however some people have started treating them as a strict binary of affected-exempt, and that is not rooted in reality or helpful. i'm inclined to say at this point, these terms create infighting instead of being helpful, and make us forget that the root cause of all the discrimination we face is the same.

explanation in simple words: transandrophobia (discrimination against masculine transness) and transmisogyny (discrimination against feminine transness) can be useful words to describe own experiences. but some people use these words to divide trans community into boxes. i think that is not good. it makes us forget we all want to fight transphobia. makes us fight each other instead, and that is not helpful.