Reminder For People With Personality Disorders:

“i respect pwnpd as long as they dont hurt people” ok. anyways here’s to narcs who unintentionally harm or hurt others!!

ok congress let’s get this discussion started

i think i explained my point best here

a lot of narc abuse truthers use the argument that narcissism ≠ npd which

a) they don’t actually mean and that’s clear in the way that they actively attempt to tear down npd communities online and demonise npd symptoms

b) isn’t a fair justification for mislabeling abuse

nobody in the history of the universe (EVER) has tried to deny that people with npd are capable of abuse. the entire point is that people with npd are not MORE likely to be abusive than anybody else and that there is no pattern of behaviour exclusive to narcissists. every behaviour associated with narc abuse can be, and is, performed by egotypicals and otherwise mentally stable people.

it’s an inaccurate descriptor for a pattern of behaviour because it also assumes that pwnpd are a hivemind. in reality, there are hundreds of ways people could present with npd. the dsm5 criteria is far too broad to make sweeping generalisations about anybody with a diagnosis.

the word narcissist implies npd (and vice versa). that’s not going to change. the only way either party is benefited by the use of the label is that egotypicals get an entire group to hate instead of just their abuser. even if we adopt their mindset and argue that narcissists are inherently abusive (again, categorically false), the demonisation of the disorder has a massive impact on the accessibility of treatment and would, in turn, increase rates of “narcissistic abuse”.

i have a lot to say about how a lot of narc abuse truthers on this hellsite actually have a sufficient amount of npd symptoms to be diagnosed but i’m sure they’ll come at me with some shit about “reactive narcissism” and how their treatment of us is justifiable because they’re better (look in the mirror.)

the thing that gets me the most about ableism against pd’s is that ppl will be like “these disorders make you an ASSHOLE!!!!” and then turn around and pretend that other disorders can’t and don’t make you act shitty.

depression and anxiety can make you irritable and snappy. they can cause you to refuse to listen to people and to be distant and withdrawn. they can cause you to seem angry, bitchy, rude, uncaring, etc.

ptsd causes an array of difficulties in forming meaningful relationships. it pretty much shakes up your entire worldview and sense of self a lot of the time. ptsd can cause you to get angry often. it can cause you to yell and scream. it can cause you to withdraw from others, run away, or cut them out. it can cause general changes in demeanor and more cynical worldviews. it can make you seem grouchy, negative, explosive, impolite, difficult, needy, controlling, etc.

and yet when people with personality disorders have symptoms of that nature, suddenly we are irredeemable monsters. when it’s npd, bpd, hpd, or aspd instead of ptsd or depression and anxiety, people suddenly and magically lose the ability to be understanding.

mental illness is an explanation, not an excuse. i firmly believe that. hurting others is never justified simply because you have any disorder.

but if you can be patient with people who have depression, anxiety, ptsd, ocd, or any other more well understood mental illness, you can be patient with us.

Questioning NPD culture is getting annoyed when people don’t understand that NPD is a spectrum like any other disorder. Yes, sometimes the traits can make someone an asshole, that can happen with any disorder or any mentally stable person. But sometimes the traits can also make you one of the kindest people on earth because NPD is literally viewing yourself as the best and wanting everyone else to agree.

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i love you narcissists i love you borderlines i love you bipolar ppl i love you schizophrenics i love you delusional ppl i love you psychotic ppl i love you systems i love you ppl with cognitive disabilities i love you anyone with a stigmatized/misunderstood/"scary" mental illness 💗💗

Riddle me this narc abuse believers, if narcissistic abuse is real, then how come I'm God's perfect little angel?

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NPD is also about having learned so much on how to present yourself because you were forced to perform at an age far too early for that, then growing up and looking down at everyone who cannot perform as well as you do and considering them weak and unprepared for life. How dare you not have the horrific experience of lacking any sense of self unless you’re praised and elevated.