Disappointed In The Vander Backstory

Disappointed in the Vander backstory

I fully expected that it was coming, but I'm disappointed in the timeline all the same.

The "Vander got upset because a fight against Piltover Silco instigated killed the woman he loved" was literally my first draft for my longfic Fathers and Daughters, and I ended up scrapping it because I felt it was too cheap and wouldn't justify the violence of his actions against Silco.

"When she died I lost my head" he says in the letter.

But when she died you actually dropped your gauntlets and picked up the girls and everyone has been assuming this was the moment you swore off violence...

Disappointed In The Vander Backstory

The fact she goes on to let Vander name her kid, and seems to be thick as thieves with them, and ALSO tells them of the pregnancy before she builds up the courage to tell her partner... Tells me that surely... SURELY by the time Vi is 10-11, whatever she is on the bridge in season 1, she would KNOW SILCO as her mom's bestie, no??? Not just Vander.

It feels like this entire angle is pulled under the rug to simplify the conflict in act 1.

I do appreciate being right on the money with Silco knowing and being friends with the mom, and having known Vi as a baby. I think it makes sense, especially if he was an important community leader.

I just hate her death being the catalyst of Vander's actions against Silco. It means that the timeline actually like this:

Mom-Silco-Vander are best friends. Silco is "Bozo 1" and has been leading the transformation of the Lanes with Vander's help. He's already planning his nation of Zaun. His notebook is literally saying "NZ" for Nation of Zaun.

At an ONGOING confrontation with enforcers, Silco throws a molotov cocktails that doesn't seem to even kill an enforcer (Powder and her innefectual bombs parallel? The entire scene is intercut with the monkey bomb clapping so... The scene leading to a friend's death also parallels the events of Jinx's birth.)

Disappointed In The Vander Backstory
Disappointed In The Vander Backstory
Disappointed In The Vander Backstory
Disappointed In The Vander Backstory

As the smoke clears/the POV looks down, we have the reveal that the girls' Mom is dead.

Disappointed In The Vander Backstory

Vander admits the blood was on his hands as well, meaning he either started this confrontation with Silco, or fought just as badly/increased the violence (and we see him murder enforcers later on). Anyway he admits to carrying the blame, and apologized in person to Silco for the dubbed "betrayal".

Then he went home, shaved, dragged Silco into the Pilt, and tried to drown him *because their common friend died at the failed uprising*.

He's then haunted, seemingly, by visions of Silco being dead:

Disappointed In The Vander Backstory

To me it's sort of weaker and sadder, as it establishes Vander as someone more flawed and less ruthless. It's not that he wanted the Lanes, it's not that Silco was getting in the way of what he wanted.

Vander was out there happy with everything they were dishing out, right until their actions cost the life of a friend, and he broke, emotionally, and BLAMED it on Silco, going so far as to kill him (or try).

He surrendered his gauntlets, picked the children up, tucked them in at home, shaved (I cannot stress this enough), then took Silco into the fucking river and brutally attempted to murder him.

Then he massively regretted it and left little breadcrumbs of apologies in case Silco found them and returned to him.

So, canon couple, first off lol

Fellas, is it gay to hang your jackets inside each other's in your secret hideout? Is it gay that all your core hidden memories begin with your mate smiling at you?

Disappointed In The Vander Backstory
Disappointed In The Vander Backstory

Yes, yes it is. Zaundad is canon and I'm not taking commentary.

Secondly, that means Vander was an emotional ticking time bomb who wasn't ready for the price to sacrifice in order to gain their freedom. I really wonder what the alternative reality would have been like, were Silco the one dying on that bridge.

Anyway, it brings some twisted sadness to the situation, because the mom wanted Zaun "no matter what" for Vi's sake, her child's future. But Vander decided that lives weren't worth spilling over that dream and tried to kill Silco over it, before teaming up with Grayson to continue enforcing a status quo.

So that means that Silco, even as he raises Jinx, is continuing her mother's dream, of building Zaun, a country that's safe for her children, "no matter what".

But very sadly the show also acts like Silco doesn't know the kids, and like the kids don't know him. Powder, sure, but Vi not knowing Silco is just downright stupid. Not even knowing him by name? When her mom was out fighting alongside him??? The mom is ALSO a miner, very clearly working with Silco and Vander, alongside the nameless poor husband.

I feel like this doesn't really solve the issues that were already raised when we speculated about act 1. It just clarifies that Vander was truly, willfully a force of oppression inside the fissures, working against the revolution necessary for Zaun becoming possible.

But it implies Silco didn't recognise Powder and Vi, and that Vi didn't recognise him or understand how he knew Vander. It's a disservice to the story, because that tie, that old bond, could really have worked to dramatize the sacrifices Silco is ready to make, as well as the depth of Vi's hatred for him.

But the show acts like they're strangers and that Vander's death is the core beef between them until Jinx enters the picture.

And then there's the Benzo scene, when Vander holds his wound from Silco's knife, and says "we both know there's worse than enforcers out there" WHO ARE YOU FUCKING TALKING ABOUT??? Yourself? You seem to be the worst thing around here! It seems clear he knew Silco was alive but had nothing to blame him for by then.

I'm left with holes that take the shape of "shock value" and "plot twist".

"Ooooh Silco knew the mom, twiiiist, but please don't think about the implications, because we wrote season 1 without taking this in consideration."

Feels like another job for fic writers, but IDK if I have the strength for it. I just like my own version better.

At least now we know that Silco did not IN FACT DO anything to "deserve" what he got. I'm sorry, but throwing a molotov at enforcers when fighting for your freedom is based and Vander was dishing death right there next to him.

The base violence necessary for change, eh? Vander just delayed the price being paid for Zaun's creation.

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Also, to add onto this because I literally discovered this seconds after seeing this post completely on accident. This post inspired me to go watch the show on yt and I was just scrolling through the compilation video of the first season and somehow happened to stumble on this specific scene.

Also, To Add Onto This Because I Literally Discovered This Seconds After Seeing This Post Completely
Also, To Add Onto This Because I Literally Discovered This Seconds After Seeing This Post Completely
Also, To Add Onto This Because I Literally Discovered This Seconds After Seeing This Post Completely
Also, To Add Onto This Because I Literally Discovered This Seconds After Seeing This Post Completely

Like, his face is illuminated by harsh shadows, he’s speaking in the same voice, he’s making the same face, all while talking about unmasking the Green Goblin. This was foreshadowing.

Also, To Add Onto This Because I Literally Discovered This Seconds After Seeing This Post Completely

I think what this scene says most of all though is that he always wanted to be discovered. He always wanted to be unmasked. Because if we were supposed to actually believe Norman Osborn wasn’t him than as the audience, then there’s no way he would have been gleeful about it being “too late” to unmask the vigilante who’s stealing all his equipment and putting his company in shambles.

His testament about the mask being your real face and your face being a mask was supposed to be an admission to wanting his literal face to be discovered this entire time so he can live out life with his true one.

So yeah, I’d definitely say it’s a relief for him. More then.

And the thing is… I’ve literally never thought of this scene before? Lol. I don’t even remember it. Like I swear I found it completely on accident right after seeing this post.

I Love The Little Smirk Norman Has When His Identity Is Found Out; It Speaks Volumes Because Of How It

I love the little smirk Norman has when his identity is found out; It speaks volumes because of how it feels atypical to the character, but not to his alter-ego. The way “Norman” would act would probably be more… grim frustration, a snarl. But instead we have a cheeky “Oh look at that! I’ve been caught!” smile that is so much more Green Goblin. He went through all that trouble to hide his identity but when it’s found out, he may as well revel in the chaos it causes because why not?

The logical Norman side should be frustrated at being exposed, but the goblin who loves to torment others over anything else digs into how much turmoil it’s inflicting on his son. There’s a deep-down playfulness that wanted to be caught, it’s the same attitude that led to Norman acting like that at all because he always wanted to, and he wanted to not have to bother with any mask. Dare I say there’s relief.

It really sells that Norman and the Green Goblin are the same, that we get to see Gobby through Norman’s face instead of abstracting one as the other. “And you saw me limp away” plus his final line in the show really lean into Norman with Green Goblin mannerisms and I’d have loved to see the character just go full ham and rhymes and poetry to disperse any doubt. Make it clear it wasn’t the serum that affected his behavior, it was the mask, which ironically made him go mask-off. I bet the writers had a moment like this planned, possibly for the final scenes of the character, before the cancellation.


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Colored An Old Sketch Of Norman For An Updated PFP. It Really Needed Updating Lol.

Colored an old sketch of Norman for an updated PFP. It really needed updating lol.


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🌟 A Cry for Help: My Family’s Struggle to Survive in Gaza 🌟

Hello, my name is Areej Kassab. I’m a 27-year-old English teacher and writer from Gaza, and I’m reaching out to you with a heavy heart and a desperate plea for support. My family and I are enduring unimaginable hardships as relentless bombings devastate our home and our dreams.

🌟 A Cry For Help: My Family’s Struggle To Survive In Gaza 🌟
🌟 A Cry For Help: My Family’s Struggle To Survive In Gaza 🌟

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🌟 A Cry For Help: My Family’s Struggle To Survive In Gaza 🌟
🌟 A Cry For Help: My Family’s Struggle To Survive In Gaza 🌟

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