The Second I Think I Am Safe From Adolf Caitler Apologists They Come At Me Swinging. I Need To Vent But

The second I think I am safe from Adolf Caitler apologists they come at me swinging. I need to vent but I am also sick of people calling me "mentally deficient" or "fascist pig" on Twitter for calling them out on their bullshit arguments. Both are real quotes btw.

People really love bringing Jinx up in these arguments so I want to start there. Caitlyn stans find it hypocritical that so many people love Jinx but hate Caitlyn completely missing how one was a product of the oppressive system that had ruined her life multiple times leaving her with lifelong trauma and mental issues while the other is a ignorant person with privilege turned a FASCIST oppressor.

We all could see that Jinx's actions in S1 weren't right but were also a result of trauma and grooming (not in the sexual sense) and I think that most fans could see that she needed therapy and a support system, not prison or some other form of punishment. On the other hand, Caitlyn's arc in S1 was about learning to see beyond her own prejudice, privilege and ignorance and making a step to help the people. This was her goal - to help the people, this is the reason she became an enforcer in the first place, but in S1 she sees with her own eyes that they don't really help the ones that need it and were corrupt.

I personally believed that in S2 she would either change the enforcers for the better or leave them and fight for Zaun against the oppression. Boy, did it hurt to be wrong. S2 put her whole arc in s1 in a completely different perspective. One where Caitlyn cared for Zaun and what happened to the people there on a very surface level. It was more of a pity project than anything. All that while we see Jinx change for the better and have better character development than Cait or Vi combined making the contrast between the two even more striking.

At the end of the day, I will forever and ever find it easier to feel sympathy and forgiveness for characters (and actual human beings for that matter) who are products of a corrupt broken system but are anything but perfect victims and 100% harder for people who grew up with privilege and the second they were hurt sought revenge on the masses even if they weren't at fault for what happened. So arguments like "Jinx killed her mother" and "Cait was justified in wanting revenge" don't resonate with me in the slightest.

"But, in season two, she lost her mother bcs of Jinx, she just blew a blaze like Jinx broke one when she accidentally killed Silco, why want more of Caitlyn and keep defending Jinx constantly? Jinx did a lot of harm around her and everyone eats her hand as if she were a saint...."

...This is a real comment a person wrote to me. Some people are in fact mad that people see Jinx as a product of her environment and as someone who at the end of the day did more to break the cycle and change than the one that gassed people with a chemical weapon which can cause life-threatening long-term effects. I could say more but in the end, this person was just an annoying hypocrite who given a real-life example (Luigi vs corrupt ceo) could say which side was wrong but couldn't do the same for the show just because they liked the character. (People can like any character but arguing that every wrong they make is either justified or non-existent is wrong and annoying. Stand up with your cancelled wife and be proud of it or like them privately and quietly if you are too embarrassed to support them and their wrongs.)

Another one of their arguments that just makes the hair on my arms stand up is about the gassing. There are 3 types of arguments on this topic and they get progressively worse.

"Yeah, it was bad but it was better than going gun blazing like the annoying blond wanted." Here I am simply not sure. Would it have been as bad as when Vi and Powder's parents were killed, would even that have been better than making people live through what that gas causes, only to die young and in pain? I don't know much about the gas except that it is what caused Viktor's condition and the little we saw from the notes of Cait's mom. What are the chances of long-term negative effects? Maybe even if they are high, better painful short life than a quick death there and then. Who knows?

"The gas is not dangerous. It's like tear gas, stop overreacting!" I would understand missing how dangerous it is if we didn't have Viktor as a main character this whole time but come on

"They only gassed criminals and they deserve it" This one truly makes me sick. I once argued with someone about whether this was a war crime or not and if it even mattered because it's a show and not real life. Anyone who tries to justify gassing people and thinks that it's ok bc they are criminals (especially ones who were forced on this path by the broken system) should question where the line is for them. When do people deserve rights and when not? Also, Cait's fans will in one breath justify it saying that it was for the good of all especially the children forced to work in the factories and then say that no one innocent was harmed. Which one is it? Are there children there or only adult criminals?

Then comes the topic of Caitlyn's redemption...Minute for silent scream bc we all have neighbors. I can't say how I would have felt if she was given redemption because...I really liked her in S1 and I was Caitvi's shipper to my core. In S1 it was the only ship that mattered to me bc the others were either not my cup of coffee or I saw them as cute crack ships so maybe I would have been sold on her redemption arc... The problem is that there wasn't anything even remotely close to that. I didn't even hear her apologizing in this whole fucking season and people left and right are "she did all of that (imagine here are dumb examples of what they think her redemption arc was) but you all are just misogynistic/homophobic/racist and just want her to suffer". No, I just wanted the writers to admit that Piltover was the oppressor and they weren't just equally bad.

I am mad that Caitlyn never apologizes for what happened with Vi. "She betrayed Ambessa" Yes, she did but I think we really needed her to apologize to Vi or at least admit she was in the wrong but I don't remember a scene like that. Also even if she had done it it would have been a step towards making things with Vi right not - redemption for everything she did to her or playing a dictator and terrorizing Zaun.

"She fought Ambessa in the end" ...yes but Ambessa was attacking her city and the end-goal would have been the end to them all so what is your point? If Ambessa was going only after Zaun I am not sure Caitlyn would have lifted a finger.

"She freed Jinx" - this again was towards repairing her relationship with Vi not about suffering consequences or working towards undoing everything she did to Zaun.

Now this one actually make me sooo mad. "She gave her seat to Sevika". I hate that from every angle. First of all if she did, that brings a larger problem with the writing this season for me - forgetting or brushing over the very real issue between Piltover and Zaun and minimizing Piltover's fault in the suffering and hardships of the Zaunites. Zaun not being independent by the end of the series makes me want to scream but if the writers' ending to the Zaun-Piltover conflict was Caitlyn giving ONE seat out of 7 in the council to Sevika letting her be surrounded and outnumbered 6 to 1 by people who see her as nothing more than dirt on their shoes I want a refund. If the council wouldn't have done anything for Zaun after the war and it was only Caitlyn... fuck me. I myself question whether she even had the power to give the seat because which dumbass would give a seat on the council to a person who until recently was playing dictator stripping them of their power and working with the very same woman that they were just fighting?

If you read until here I have to apologize for all my rambling and admit that it is only coffee and spite that kept me going. There are probably more things but this is on the top of my mind. If we weren't living in times like these I would look at all these people defending her, her actions and Piltover as a whole and have a good life but now it just makes me mad.

To end this on a positive note (said the person who wrote a whole fucking rant post) the songs from Arcane S2 are so connected to specific scenes and characters in my mind that seeing a sisterly Jinx and Vi eddit on Fantastic permanently traumatized me.

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3 months ago

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6 months ago

The song playing during Ekko and Powder's scene “Ma Meilleure Ennemie” by Stromae, Pomme perfectly portraying Timebomb feels like the final nail in the cofin.

You’re the best thing that ever happened to me, but also the worst thing that ever happened to me. The day I met you, I would’ve preferred that it never happened. The worst of blessings. The most beautiful jinx. ... You know what they say keep your closest friends near, but keep your enemies even closer. But my dearest enemy is you.

(I don't know French but I saw transletions in Reddit and youtube https://www.reddit.com/r/arcane/comments/1gy3tkk/no_spoilers_ma_meilleure_ennemie_my_dearest_enemy/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll8ThFiR1tk&pp=ygUUbWEgbWVpbGxldXJlIGVubmVtaWU%3D)


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2 weeks ago

"People of Gaza. Palestinians. Your hunger is our shame."

The Israeli government yesterday approved a proposal to intensify attacks on Gaza. The military has called up additional reservists.

On Friday morning, the Conscience aid ship was bombed in international waters off the coast of Malta. A fire broke out on board, forcing the crew to issue a distress call.

The attack was reportedly carried out by drones. Israel, which has previously targeted similar vessels, remains silent.

At least 30 Palestinians were killed just yesterday.

In Khan Younis, one family lost eleven members, and another lost four. A baby died in a tent. At Rantisi Hospital in western Gaza, a baby girl, Janan Saleh al-Sakafi, died of hunger and dehydration. She was only a few months old.

Since the start of Israel's total blockade in March, no humanitarian aid has entered the enclave. At least 51 people have died solely from malnutrition.

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Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories, wrote on X:

"[They are] scrambling for food as if they were gasping for air, grabbing it from filthy grounds, getting hurt while seeking a hole in the human flesh, amassing for a handful of emptiness? People of Gaza. Palestinians. Your hunger is our shame."

7 months ago

I don't want him to die because I hate him but because he is one of my favorite characters on the show.

I understand what op means and have nothing against people who agree but I want to present a different point of view.

I want him to be the character with most screen time this season (maybe with the exception of El) and I want as many story arcs for him. Revealing what happened in the upside down all these years ago and how he survived, more of him spying on Vecna, him in trances fighting or running from One in his mind, being the best with guns after Nancy and Hopper and owning it, some more trauma we didn't know about, Birthday gate, him with powers? I want everything they can give us.

I want the writers to flush him out, show us how much he has been through and how he is still fighting even after everything. I want him full of hope, seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for a first time in a long time, finding strength to dream and have hopes for tomorrow again, finding himself, feeling like himself amongst the people he loves, happy, content and holpfull.

Then I want him to die. I don't want him to die in just any way. I want him to sacrifice himself to save everyone (bonus points if it was the only way to end it all) but not because he doesn't have anything to live for or because he is depressed and alone. I want him to sacrifice himself because he has hope. Hope that everyone else will survive, finish it and live good, fulfilling lives even if he isn't there anymore.

I want to see his end as the very opposite of how he was in the beginning of the series. Whereas when he was taken he was afraid, helpless and desperate to survive by the end of S5 he should be confident, hopeful and in peace with his demise.

In the beginning, he was taken against his will, and he had to run and hide to survive. In the end, he stops running and hiding, not from monsters but from himself and who he really is. (Maybe he had known for a long time that he had to die to stop the Upside down and Henry but was too afraid but now he is ready.)

I don't really want him to die but there is something poetic about the series starting and ending with him. If they really do a good job with his character and arc and then kill him I will be at peace (emotionally broken but still) but if he lives but they don't do much with his character I will be disappointed.

There are many things a character can be worse than death and one of them is irrelevant.

He thought he was a mistake… his own dad called him slurs… he survived in the upside down by himself… kids bullied him at school… he was in love with his best friend… castle byers was his only safe place… he still didn’t know his life could turn even worse… and yet there’s people that want him to die in s5

He Thought He Was A Mistake… His Own Dad Called Him Slurs… He Survived In The Upside Down By Himself…

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2 months ago

I’ve been found dead on the floor with tears streaming down my face


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6 months ago

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6 months ago
''You Don't Have To Suffer Anymore...''

''You don't have to suffer anymore...''

1 month ago

To the people who say they're not political...

Do better.

Here’s the truth: every right and freedom you have today exists because people before you got involved in politics and fought for them.

They went up against unfair systems that didn’t, and still don’t, want us to have rights.

Rights are fought for, not given.

When you say, “I’m not political,” you’re showing you don’t understand where your freedoms come from.

You’re also showing that you're fine enjoying the benefits of activism without helping out.

It is time to step up.

Let’s do better together. <3

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Do you get what I mean? I want it to hurt, I want it to bleed, and I want madness—whether it’s mine or theirs, it doesn’t matter.


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