Re: That Other Post. I HATE HATE HATE The Modern Trans Discourse Thats Just "boys Versus Girls But Progressive

if these people put half the energy they pour into discourse into something productive, like... calling their representatives, or putting up fliers, or volunteering for queer youth groups... the world would be a much better place. I'd much rather have a good cis ally than someone who's willing to exclude other queer people to keep him out.

Alright. I'm going to vague about some discourse I've been seeing because I don't want to argue with people. But I have to get this off my chest bc this is pissing me off.

Hey, asshole. Instead of being "frightened" that people (TRANS PEOPLE) don't like your take that cishet men should be excluded from queer friendly spaces, maybe take a second to think about why.

Maybe talk to cis black butch women who are often perceived as men and you'll understand why.

Maybe talk to trans women who don't pass/ can't pass and you'll understand why.

Maybe talk to trans men who do pass and you'll understand why.

Maybe talk to genderfluid people who present masc sometimes and you'll understand why.

It's not that we are obsessed with cishet men. It's that there is no workable solution to exclude people from queer spaces based on identity without also harming the above named populations. You can yap all day about excluding the cishet men from our spaces, but the question remains: how are you going to enforce that policy? If you talked to us, you'd understand that there is no way to enforce it without either interrogating us, excluding us, or both. And that should upset you.

Can you please spend energy caring about something that could actually bring good to the queer community???

periodic reminder that if you think one type of trans person is "more oppressed" than another type or if you believe that certain categories of trans people shouldn't have terms to describe their own unique types of oppression i do not want you following my blog. please fuck off immediately

"Masculinity is rewarded" have you ever spoken to a transmasc or a butch or a tomboy or any masculine woman/person perceived as a woman. Have you ever spoken to a gnc transfem.

i do just want people to be aware that, while "assigned sex at birth" has been widely reclaimed and generalized to general populations, it did not start through personal identification or as a positive term. it was coined between doctors to discuss what sex to surgically and socially assign intersex infants, children, and in some cases, adults. one example of a study using this term is here, mostly inspired by john money [its a heavy read if you decide to open it]. i do just want people to be aware of the history of this term before claiming that it is "coined by the intersex community"—it wasnt, it was forced on us by the medical community.

being a trans man is fucked because people who hate women still hate us for being women but also people who hate men hate us for being men

and the second group says they're actually being good and supporting us and affirming us by hating us, and then everyone agrees, including a whole bunch of other trans people, even including trans men. somehow

alright im starting to just flat out not trust people who arent trans men/mascs that refer to trans MEN as "tboys" and/or "trans boys"

every time i see that shit its usually tied to some really shitty statement in the same exact fucking post

i might have to start collecting screenshots from now on of what im talking about to demonstrate my point later

but anyway, heres a not so friendly reminder: stop infantilizing us by calling us "boys". its trans MEN or trans GUYS or trans DUDES. you should not be calling anyone a trans boy unless you are familiar with them and they are comfortable with that. because a lot of us fucking arent.

Tagging something like this as "fight me" then turning off reblogs and whining about people calling you a terf is a new degree of pathetic.

Also didn't this person block every trans woman who told him to stop?

Sure you ain't a terf, man?

Ironically, reblogs were off..

But let it be known that nobody ever said this and this entire fuckinb post is filled witb radfem shit.

"If men could get pregnant, abortions wouldn't be a problem!"

"If men could get periods, all period products would be free and accessible!"

SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP.

‼️‼️‼️ STOP IGNORING AND EXCLUDING TRANS MEN‼️‼️‼️

I’m hoping that this is as “angry” as I’ll get with a comic, but given how the world is shaping up politically at the moment, I fear that might not be the case.

It’s been incredibly eye opening to witness the degree to which some people I know are willing to bury their heads in the sand in order to avoid the reality of the awful things that are happening around them.  Awful things that they were told were going to happen.

In America, people are being black bagged and shipped off to El Salvador without due process to be held indefinitely in prisons, with the current administration now making social media posts cruelly boasting that they’ll never return. 

Make no mistake, if people are being kidnapped by the government, given no due process, and are shipped to a foreign nation to be held in prison with no intention to give them any legal recourse, we need to call these prisons what they are:

They are death camps.

The United States of America is rounding up “undesirables” and sending them to death camps. 

There are people in this country that voted for this.  No matter how nice they otherwise seem or claim to be, these people are evil to the core. 

There are also people who didn’t vote for this, but do provide social validation and acceptance to those who did.

If you are someone who thinks you’re against fascism, but you also accept fascists in your life, you are a fascist. 

There can be no acceptance of intolerance.  In the comic, the person I’m lampooning is the “Fake Trans Ally”, but you can swap out “trans” for any other group of marginalized people.  Frankly, just call this person “The Fake Ally.”

If you’re someone reading this and feel attacked because I’m calling you a fake ally, it’s time to do some soul searching.  When the history books are written about this period of American history, are you going to be someone who was unambiguously against hatred, or were you someone that treated hate as acceptable? 

Were you someone that invited hatred into your home?

Were you someone that shared a meal with hatred?

Were you someone that allowed hatred a safe haven?

If you’re someone that does that, you yourself are hateful. 

When you accept hate, you do so at the expense of those who are the target of that hatred.

Be better, our lives depend on it.

Was doing some light reading, and came across this paper that reminded me of discourse from a few weeks back.

Anyone remember when that post was floating around about how "theyfab" was actually invented by transfems to make fun of trans men/enbies who use their AGAB as a shield to protect themselves against criticism? Basically leveraging "oh I'm just a female, I'm so innocent", strawman bullshit?

Then others chimed in about how it actually came from 4chan as a way to mock enbies who aren't "trans enough"?

Well, here's an actual academic source on the issue, to shove a knife in this whole argument, as I'm sure it'll pop up again:

...

Sure looks like the "transandrobros" were right once again

Straight from an actual academic paper

"Theyfab" is infact 4chan lingo made to shit on people "not doing trans right" and isn't some transfem counter culture buzzword like some people claim it to be