Dating Louis James Moriarty Headcanon

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Soulmates. Better half. Portkeys. The love of your life. CMBYN & Vice Versa's plot at their core are essentially these aforementioned concepts.

Call me by your name is inspired from Plato's Symposium. In Greek mythology, humans were originally four-limbed, two-faced creatures; split apart by Zeus and condemned to spend their lives looking for their other half.

According to Symposium, one's quest for a female or male half depends on the nature of their original being. The relationship between the halves is subjective, but is ultimately companionship.

However, when one meets their other half, be it a lover of youth or a lover of another sort, the pair are lost in an amazement of love and friendship and intimacy, and would not be out of the other’s sight, as I may say, even for a moment.” This is the highest form of love — “the people who pass their whole lives together; yet they could not explain what they desire of one another.”

"Call me by your name and I will call you by mine" implies that "you and I" are one being that was separated. Now Talay & Puen share parallels to Oliver & Elio.

Puen and Talay are going through something similar (as of ep 6) The duo find themselves naturally drawn to each other, but they do know what they desire from each other. They briefly even feign ignorance.

As for the concept of portkeys, it once again refers to the idea of 2 people who are destined for each other. Like a match made in heaven.

Puen is carefree like Oliver. It is very evident from his confidence when he says things like "I kissed you because I wanted to" or "I should simply marry my colorist then"

For a non believer of love, Talay treats love sacredly. He's quick to draw boundaries & teach Puen that love cannot & should not be faked. He's cautious, sensitive to language & doesn't take things for granted, just like Elio. Puen revealed himself to Pang in the first meeting but not to Talay who was practically joined to him by the hip on most days. Talay tries to hide his envy by telling Puen to get close to Pang by calling her his prospective portkey. This is parallel to Elio's jealousy over Chiara. And his attempt to objectify her to strike up a conversation with Oliver.

Although most Call Me By Your Name ends with Elio getting a little more cynical, here's to manifesting that Vice Versa will end with Puen feeling a lot less lonely & Talay losing his cynicism about love.

PS Call Me By Your Name is set in a town by the coast & a lot of scenes are on the beach. Talay happened to drown while playing at the beach. Not to forget his name itself means "Sea" (And the actor's nickname IRL is Sea lmao 😂)

(Some of the above information was sourced from Vox)

being single in your late 20s & 30s is so fucking wild bc on one hand it's fun and flirty and you skip a lot of the bullshit because you know what you're looking for and you know how to spot a red flag from a mile away and you've learned to set boundaries and communicate your own and be upfront about your needs and most of the time they've learned it too - and if they haven't, you can tell after the second date that they haven't been to therapy

and every time you feel lonely and dried up and an ugly husk there's a whole community of other single people out there who are just as unhinged and want to hang out with you because they just need a plus-one like you do and you get introduced to like. people in their 60's and 70's and 80's who are all like - nope, single life is my choice and i love it and you feel warm and seen and like okay, it's not the end of the world if i'm not seeing anybody. and yeah it's hard and sometimes exhausting but part of getting better is that you do make like so many friends and do so much wild shit because you made a promise to yourself that you'll actually get out there and try shit and actually work on your hobbies and skills and friendships because to be honest in relationships you wouldn't push yourself this hard and it's actually been super rewarding because it came from you and from what you wanted

and yes of course the apps such and dating in general can suck but after one of the bad dates you go back to your apartment and call up those friends you made and make jokes about what the other person said and it rolls right off your back and you have plans for self-care in the morning. you prioritize yourself and your happiness and you really actually don't mind it, a lot of the time, unless it's like at a wedding and they're doing one of those couples-related things. most of the time it's not even a problem except when you can tell people pity you for it and you're like - i'm actually fine, babe, even without a partner i am still, like a person and yes of course it would be nice to have a partner but you have established yourself as a person and as an adult in a way that feels really hard-won and well-earned and you're protective of that and of the life you're living and honestly you're pretty happy, all things considered

and at the same time you do have to tell your father that you are single on purpose right now and that, yes, believe it or not, they're letting women be single past the age of 30 these days without burning us at the stake (can you imagine!) and you have to kind of sit pretty while people make jokes about how you're losing your marriageability and you're like, a little too old for the bars and the clubs and whatever but you do still want to go out dancing and it's like. the other day you went to a board game party and had the time of your life and then your mom calls you and says she's worried because what if you never find the one, shouldn't you be spending more time looking? and you're like - trying to balance this place where you're actually, like, perfectly okay? except you hear this thing over and over and over - oh no. that's so sad. i hope you find your lover. and you weren't really upset about it until someone suggested that you're running out of time and until someone said that it's so miserable that you live without someone to kiss and you're like why can't anyone believe that i'm genuinely happy. like. joy. like. bliss.

and then they look at you and they look at their partner and the look passes between them that says - poor thing. you're just lying to yourself about this.

Puen & Talay falling for each other & not at the same time is so bittersweet.

They've practically grown attached to the person they don't entirely know even after a year together.

Puen knows Talay's dreams as a colorist, that he dislikes all but bacon pink. He has a sweet tooth. Plays guitar. Sings well. He's very sincere and serious when it comes to people & emotions. But he doesn't know why he gives mixed signals to his obvious flirting. Why he's so determined to push him away. He has no clue why such a ball of sunshine is cynical about love. Puen knows a lot about Talay's details like name & birthday. The fact that his entire life as "Tun" has started revolving around Talay isn't helping him at all. The possible reason he's keeping secrets I've mentioned here.

Talay can't accept a person he doesn't know. He has seen Puen be his most vulnerable self. Sure he might be confident, independent & flirty. But ultimately he's just a clingy baby around Talay. He's playful, lively. There's hardly any dull moment with him. Talay finds himself naturally drawn to him. He subconsciously observes everything this "Tun" does.

But the guessing game hurts. Sure, he's falling for "Tun" the playful, clingy & sensitive boy at his core. But how can he accept someone whose name he doesn't know. How will he find him once they go back. What will he do if they don't go back to together. If he's going to date, he's not going to waste time unless they're in it for the long run. And that also means Talay needing preparation to adjust to Puen's schedules & fame.

Communication can solve the problem. However the problem is also their fear of losing each other after initiating the difficult conversation. This is a classic trope for falling for a best friend except, they do not fall under any label at this point.

How Kim & WIK were 2 different people until Porchay came along.

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No thanks to Tawan for kidnapping Chay to use him as a pawn, it does in a way solidify the fact Kim hasn't & will probably never love a person like he loved Porchay. (And rightfully so)

He now sees no point in saving Porcahy from himself. (Considering Porchay's own elder brother is now Kinn's boyfriend so he's now inevitably linked to the major family & at risk for the rest of his life) This was exactly the situation he was trying to avoid in the first place. But now, it still occurred for different reasons. So he decides to do the next best thing. Follow his heart & fight for his love.

Note how Kim risks coming himself? Despite having professionals who could have done the job for him? It's not only his life that's in danger. He's risking Chay discovering his lies. He's going back to the life he tried so hard to avoid.

Kinn doesn't hesitate to shoot at Vegas, his own cousin. He came with one clear objective. Rescue the love of his life & kill everyone involved in harming him.

Kim is successful in not only saving Porchay but also in protecting his identity from him. He seems to hate confrontation & would rather ghost than dump somebody (which frankly makes him a big jerk but it's a show about criminals so)

Once Kim learns some ugly truth (which I think hasn't been completely disclosed as of ep12) & the fact that Porchay is now living in the main house; he is assured Porchay is going to be safe from physical harm. So he chooses to focus on his plan. He's still a little gentle in turning down when he could've been snarky & ended it sooner. But he's still a jerk :))

What happens next is interesting. While Porchay starts losing his innocence owing to heartbreak (He's Good boy gone bad y'all!!! Any MOAs in the house?!!) Kim stops separating WIK from himself.

It's like they're apart, but they're still growing together. Porchay is learning that love is not just roses but also the thorns while Kim is realising the rose's beauty & fragrance is worth the blood & thorns.

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Gifs from @namchyoon & @petevegas post

I can't help but wonder if these similarities were intentional.

Let's look at the couples. Both are facing a shared problem. Pat Pran are sick of their controlling parents. Puen Talay are trying to cope with the untimely demise of Joob.

Pran & Talay have a fear of patterns. Pran is afraid of his mother forcefully transferring him again. His high school heartbreak is unhealed. He's afraid that every time he gets close to Pat, fate will split them apart.

Talay has a fear of abandonment. Just a week ago Up & Aou went their separate ways. Puen disappeared entirely. Top it all Fuse & Kita graduated before him. Hardly had Friend Credits re-united when Joob passed away. His fear of abandonment resurfaced.

Pat & Puen themselves didn't have it better. Pat had gotten scolded by his father for prioritising the play over rugby. He also had to cope with his father's betrayal which caused him & Parn to be star crossed lovers.

Puen too was mourning the loss of Joob. The one in whom he saw a maternal figure. Even his own fears were likely to be triggered watching Dol regret holding back from confessing until it was too late.

Puen & Pat exhibited immense strength by not only standing tall, but also by holding their partners from collapsing.

Pat could have simply asked for a break or ended it altogether. Because from the looks of it, they both were financially dependent on their families. Instead of being practical or reckless, Pat asked Pran to run away with him until they could come up with a solution. A solution that would let them continue holding each other's hand.

Puen too, could have done anything. Confessed impulsively, cried or remained silent. He himself was shook & unsure of his fate. Moreover watching Dol regret must have added to his own insecurities. But he mustered up his last ounce of courage & confidence to reassure Talay.

"Can I hug you to sleep all night?" In this case was not "I'm in love with you" or "I will protect you" but rather a reassurance that "I'll still be holding you after you sleep & wake up. I will never disappear on you ever again. I won't abandon you."

"when death// takes my hand// i will hold you with the other// and promise to find you// in every lifetime ~ commitment, rupi kaur, The Sun and Her Flowers”

PS it's funny is that Talay technically looks like Pat & Puen like Pran in this alternate universe given the casting....like you know what I'm saying right 😂😂

Possible explaination for Vegas visiting a temple

It is a known fact that Vegas wears a million masks & has lost himself in the process. These could be one of the two reasons he visits a temple despite being a ruthless criminal.

Guilt : As his human side surfaces in ep 11, it now seems believeable that Vegas indeed feels a tinge of guilt for any of these reasons :

Taking away innocent lives

Manipulating people to fall in love with him only to kill them later (they could be the only form of affectionate touch he gets except from Macau)

Having to raise Macau, the only family he loves & trusts, in a toxic environment

Vegas probably wakes up every morning only to fulfil his duties as a son & heir without any self driven motivation. (He doesn't even seem to know himself as Vegas without the Theerapanyakul) He is probably clinging to this mafia life just because there is no alternative. Also there's a need to shield Macau from their toxic father.

Perhaps he goes gives offerings to the temple to beg forgiveness for the sins he's obliged to commit. He could've felt guilty for failing to protect Macau or constantly disappointing his father by always being the second best after Kinn. He might also believe he is paying for the sins of his past lives. Or fear the sins of this life shall carry on to the next.

Which leads me the second possible reason - Lack of purpose.

People commonly turn to spirituality to find answers for questions like - Who am I? What is the purpose of life? Questions which Vegas definitely seems inclined to find answers for. Because he feels unwanted. Unloved. Unworthy. And then in ep 7, he watches Pete.

Pete, who happens to be passing by, stops & bows when he notices a shrine. Earlier in the ep we see Pete asking Big to stop trashing a rival gang member afraid it would lead to his death. This shows Pete's compassionate side despite being in a job that demands you to be violent & merciless. (Yes they needed him to live to make him talk but he neither seemed to have bled nor fainted. We only see Big hitting him only a couple of times prior) Vegas must have considered if faith in God is what keeps a person like Pete from crumbling. So decides to give God a chance.

But someone makes him realize he wants something from life. Which for once, doesn't have to do with his family. Pete.

He might have tried talking to deal with the awkwardness of being caught while spying. But this sentence means a lot to Vegas who has probably never experienced platonic love. No one had ever asked him about his likes or dislikes without intending to use it against him. And now all he wants is someone to whom he can ask about interests & be asked back . So he answers.

However, the peace may not be from just hearing the sermon, but from hearing it alongside Pete. Vegas has never been treated like a commoner before. The absence of hierarchy in this conversation oddly liberates him. And for the first time, he admits to having desires; in his own way.

By next life he could have meant "In a life where we are not us". He wished Pete was his friend in a world where he could afford to have one. A life where he was not his father's son or the minor family's heir. An alternative universe where Pete was not one of his rival's fiercely loyal head bodyguard. Where Vegas didn't have to constantly switch personalities & Pete was still his non-judgemental self.

For the first time Vegas could sense a craving for a human relationship that didn't have to be bound by money, blood or blackmail. And he readily did a ritual if it meant something to his newfound desire.

But the type of love he craves can be found in any relationship. Considering his upbringing, he seems to believe blood or romantic relationships are utilitarian. Which only leaves friendships. A luxury he never had as a mafia prince.

Now to ruin the mood we all know what happens next😂 Pete is fucking attractive so Vegas couldn't hold back & needed an excuse to touch him I guess 🤣🤣

However it is worth noting that humans have multiple layers to their personalities. Moreover humans do tend to look for what they lack in their partners. So it's only normal for Vegas to find that comforting friend in Pete.

PS forgive me if I'm wrong this is my first time posting my own theory/interpretation 😛😅😭

GIF by @gunsatthaphan

Payu be a walking red flag but red is my favorite color 😭

Watching as a pre debut Noeul stan 😪✋🏻

as a shy introvert who not only joined but also worked hard to excel in public speaking events so that my crush notices (we didn't end up dating but whatever lol), just going to say that watching Tinn going out of his way for Gun hits different.

YURIO HAS A CAT & THIS IS ALL THE SCREEN TIME IT GOT???

okay but why does Tinn look absolutely gorgeous when smitten but I am staring at my crush I look like an absolute idiot

# tinn being completely & utterly unaffected by gun

in my school president (2022), episode 2 ( part 2/? )