uh huh. I'm delusional. and we definitely did NOT read the same comics. because that was indeed abuse. that was verbal abuse.
damian took every oppurtunity he had to insult and demean tim. he did this specifically to tim, with the intention of causing him harm. that is abuse.
(please note that I am talking about Early Damian. like, when he first arrived at the manor. he character developed After This. this is even pre-damian-becoming-Robin.)
First of all, let’s define an abusive relationship. Okay? “Abuse” is not characterized by- say it with me now- age, gender, strength/size or otherwise more “common” depictions of an abusive relationship. “Abuse” is characterized by a- say it with me now- POWER IMBALANCE. Got it? Good.
Now, let’s examine Damian and Tim’s relationship to see if there’s a power imbalance with one simple question. Do they both have the power to redefine this relationship? In the case of Tim and Damian, the answer is no. An immediate follow-up to this question should be: who has the power to redefine the relationship? The answer is the more powerful side of the power imbalance, or, more often than not, the abuser. In the case of Tim and Damian, Damian is the one with the power to redefine the relationship.
Why? Because a), both Tim and Damian’s adults (Bruce, Alfred, maybe Dick) are unwilling to balance the relationship (giving them both consequences for cruelty, no favoritism, etc.), b), Damian does not accept anything Tim says- if Tim is polite, he’s being patronizing/condescending and it’s his fault, if Tim’s rude he’s being cruel/unfair and it’s his fault, if Tim’s indifferent he’s being cold/unfair and it’s his fault- as a genuine effort on Tim’s part, meaning only Damian has the power to change their dynamic.
Just because Damian is younger than Tim does not mean that Damian is incapable of being abusive towards Tim. It reminds me of a dynamic in which the “softer” one, e.g. a wife or in this case, a younger sibling, is abusing the “tougher” one, e.g. a husband or an older sibling, and the victim of the abusive is not believed because the “softer” one obviously can’t be an abuser. By excusing Damian’s actions you are practicing abuse apologism. This is Very Fucked Up and it is Not Okay. Just because DC seems to think it is okay and the majority of the fandom brushes past it, it does NOT MEAN that it is not abuse apologism.
I am not blaming Damian for any of this. No one has ever bothered to explain to him that his actions are wrong or explain why they are wrong. However, that does not absolve him of responsibility. Responsibility is not the same thing as blame. In this case, responsibility means an actual, genuine apology on Damian’s part. Responsibility means acknowledging it was wrong of him to abuse Tim, it means an actual change in behavior going forward, and, specifically for Damian, it probably includes therapy.
Abuse apologism is not okay. I need people to understand that Damian was abusing Tim. There is no excusing or sugarcoating it. Damian. Abused. Tim. I need people to understand that. Yes, Damian can accept responsibility (and the ADULTS- Bruce, Alfred, maybe Dick- need to accept the blame) but that does not change the fact that in the beginning, He Abused Tim. Yes, Damian can (and should) make a change, and that change should be reflected in his characterization, but if one were to write him in the BEGINNING he would still be abusing Tim. I am not demonizing him by writing this. This is not me bashing on the character. This is me defining his canonical behavior. This is me telling you all that Damian was entitled and spoiled and rude and cruel and ABUSIVE.
I need you to understand this.
hey hi hello can i read this once youre done?
Something that just came to mind.
Tim sitting with one leg up at the bat computer during a meeting “shit, Steph can you pick up some of my foundation I’m almost out”
Jason turned with a frown “Why do you wear make up?”
“eh To many triggering scars on my face” Tim points to his face in a exaggerated motion. “I would show you but I don’t want you going all rage zombie on me”
A strangle noise of confusion or sympathy escaped dick “Why would Jason be triggered?” He said while approaching Tim
Tim roatated in his chair waving his hand around in a circular motion “Well most people find a permanent smile horrific dick”
there is no way to construe Damian being Robin after he just got out of a murder cult as anything less than a phenomenally shitty idea. i do not say this to criticize Damian as a character. he is a good character. it is because he is a good character that I am going to say this: Damian being Robin was Bad. Very Bad.
Outside of the dynamics within the family at the change, people are still Suffering because of Damian As Robin. Because Damian is not trained to be Robin. Robin is Hope. Robin is comfort. Robin is not a fucking baby assassin who only has the job to “secure his place as the blood son” and prove that the ‘placeholders’ weren’t as good as him.
Because Robin is not just a mantle that changes how people within the Batfam see each other. It is also a job that living people need to survive and Damian, as someone who was not trained for literally Any Aspect of said job that people need to survive, was risking those people.
Completely disregarding Damian’s and others within the Batfam’s own (stunted) development because of Damian Being Robin, it is a really, really, really shitty idea to give a profession that, again, lives depend on to a traumatized ex-assassin child whose adults are for some reason refusing to parent or even fucking guide.
PEOPLE.
hi hi hello its me, im back, i breached containment, im here to yap about tim drake again bc hes my favorite and i have latched onto him.
first of all, let’s draw a line between fanon tim and canon tim. personality wise i dont know jack shit about canon tim… but angst wise? oh boy.
the amount of unexplored *angst potential* truly drives me insane.
like, i love lonely neglected gremlin tim. i enjoy reading about the effects of jack and janet being negkectful. but in canon, they werent. ya know what trauma tim DOES have related to his parents in canon? jack dying.
because that was his father. under his protection. and he failed. jack died on his watch, when it was his job to prevent it. combine that with so e sweet sweet angst about needing to be useful? you get tim drake who has dedicated his entire life to being able to protect people, and you get him utterly failing when it matters most. you get tim drake who became useless and it cost him his dad.
i want tim drake who does not believe he is worthy of robin. he forced himself in, and the second he failed people around him started dropping. like. flies. jack, steph, bart, kon, bruce. i always see ppl characterize damian as being insecure abt robin, which, like, to an extent he is. but. but tim, tim who believes he will never be worthy of the title. tim who does not believe he has a place in the family.
i love fanon dont get me wrong. ik a lot of ppl hve prkblems with it (valid ones tbh) but its how i was introduced to the fandom and i love it. but canon is being neglected. and we should fix that.
come on op drop the rest of the essay
Dick was the last to be adopted, Jason became the black sheep post-resurrection, Tim made himself Robin, Damian was dropped in Gotham after ten years of being kept secret, Cass possesses killer instincts that run counter to Batman's philosophy, Duke is a meta whose parents are still alive (albeit jokerized), and Steph has zero legal connections to the Waynes. All of the batkids have reason to believe they're the only one Bruce doesn't want around and Bruce is unaware of the problem because they don't vocalize it not just out of the usual emotional constipation, but also a deep-seated fear of being proven right. In this essay, I will—
i’m so normal about them
”acquire” like duke is a fucking pokemon
Damian, entering smog/pollution city Gotham after living in Nanda Parbat his entire life: why am I turning white?
hc that everyone turns white only in gotham bc of the sheer amount of pollution blocking out the sun
Damian thought he was slowly dying at first and also refused to ask for help
Jason, casually crimelording: Damian what are you doing? Damian: Todd. I need help- Jason: what? YOU asking for help?? Are you dying?? Damian: Yes. Look at my skin! Jason: *takes off his helmet out of concern or smthing* Damian, seeing Jason without a tan for the first time: YOU'RE DYING TOO??? Jason: Jason, little shit little brother getting the opportunity to be an annoying shithead older brother: oh yeah did you know-
Damian was actually convinced he was going to die for like a month until he finally cracked and was a little hurt at everyone laughing at him (good thing he has: knife)
BEHOLD THE SCRIPTURE
Is there a word that’s a mix between angry and sad
On Tim and Dick (specifically Dick giving away Robin):
Dick sees "graduating" from Robin as an honor. That is the source of most of his arguments with Bruce. Dick has spent so much time and effort trying to escape from Batman's shadow. When he "graduates" Tim, he sees it as an honor. An affirmation that Tim is Doing Good and has succeeded.
Tim sees "losing" Robin as failure. This is the source of most of his- I'm not gonna say arguments, but feelings toward- Bruce. He has spent so much time and effort to be deemed worthy to be even in Batman's shadow to begin with. When he "loses" Robin, he sees it as Dick telling him he isn't Good Enough. An affirmation of the bullshit Damian has been spewing about Tim's value as part of the group. (And I could rant about Damian and Robin and Tim, but that's for a different day.)
Back to the "Batman's Shadow" analogy: Dick became Robin in Batman's shadow. He was sheltered from the blinding light until he was old enough to take it on. When he was, Batman didn't want him to go. So he left the shadows himself. He sees being able to 'brave the light' as a victory, so he "rescues" Tim from the shadow.
Tim became Robin without Batman's aid. He became Robin with no one to shelter him from the light. And just when he finally feels secure in his role, just when he's granted a place in Batman's shadow, Dick shoves him back into the unforgiving light again.
Robin is a very complicated mantle with a lot of feelings attached to it, it's a very symbolic thing. Robin is not just a crime fighting vigilante, it is not just a suit, but it is- it is a place of belonging within the family. For Dick, specifically, Robin was to honor his dead parents. From the very beginning, Robin is for family. Jason uses Robin as a way to connect with Bruce and defend his first "family", the people of Crime alley. So in the second Robin, this idea stays clear: Robin is for family.
But with Tim? He wasn't family until the end of his run as Robin, but he still saw it as family. He was there for the origins of Robin, at the circus. He saw how Robin was for family.
And then Dick took it away.
omg didn’t tim make some sort of promise to ra’s to get his help during the BruceQuest??????
hi!!!
AU Idea: fae!tim drake who very specifically treats promises as sacred. why? the ✨angst potential✨.
plus all the other stuff with tim being a fae, but i had the idea abt promises specifically
Hi!!! 👋
Fae!Tim has my entire heart and soul. The promises side of this is a wonderful addition. So, let's get into it ^^
For this AU, let's say Tim can lie. He's fae, but he can lie. The only issue he has (and other fae have) with lying is that it's painful, considered rude, and fae can usually tell when someone is lying to them. The pain and offense of the lie increases with how great or important the lie is.
The fae, however, keep this as a tightly guarded secret (that they can lie and that lying hurts them). Barely any non-fae know about it.
Unfortunately, Tim found out the hard way that not keeping promises, even when he intended to, counts as lying to their biology. He was in a considerable amount of pain when he found that out the hard way. Perhaps there's even a magical binding element to promises where he has to keep them or pay some price.
Tim thus very rarely makes promises. He doesn't do white lies, and he won't say comfort lies/promises of "you'll be alright." There are loopholes he utilizes, and he is very good at misleading or misrepresenting himself.
Nobody else in the batfam is fae. Only Tim. So, the Bats do not know that Tim can lie. Because, again, he rarely if ever does and it usually causes him pain.
The Bats do know that he's very careful with promises. Perhaps there was a moment where someone tried to use promises as a way to guarantee Tim would do something (like take care of himself), and Tim was hella pissed off for this.
Anyways, I think the others would have varying opinions about promises. Some say them off-handedly, some try to only mutter them in serious or important moments, and some try their damndest to uphold any promise they make.
The only batfam member to take it as seriously and sacredly as Tim is Damian. Whether that's because of how he was raised or because of his nature (dragon, angel, siren, or whatever), is up to you ^^
I just like the angst and relationship potential of Tim and Damian, who start off as enemies, learning to trust the other when it comes to promises. This one aspect they see eye to eye on.
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