not sure how much it counts as controversial, but the bit at the end of DR3 where the Remnants take the blame for the killing game has always rubbed me the wrong way. Not just because of personal beliefs about information, but also because in that very same anime, we see Junko blackmailing people and HPA trying to cover up their mistakes. If anyone finds out the truth about the kg, they’re screwed. Felt like it went against the theme a bit.
Yeah actually I would say this is the opposite of controversial simply because I don't think I've ever met or seen a danganronpa fan who thinks dr3 was incredible. I don't hate dr3 nearly as much as I've seen other hate it, but I have a very strong love-hate relationship with it. Especially for Future.
But I can totally understand having beef with that particular ending. (In fact I have issues with most of the Hope arc) All three of the main games, even the pessimistic one, have a theme of facing the truth no matter how awful. So it is a bit strange for danganronpa to hide the truth when the core theme has always been to expose it. I can understand the world not being ready but...it felt unnecessary. Because The Future Foundation needs to be completely rebuilt anyway. All but three leaders of the FF are dead, and one of them just kinda walked away to do who knows what. The FF is also incredibly corrupt and terribly built. There IS no need to save it by taking the blame because it's already dead by the end of the anime.
These 2 would be friends ASAP
Please! Never let these characters meet!!
I don't ship these crazy people...
It is obvious to me and many others that i have a favorite villain archetype
Oh I’m a sucker for content about Makoto perpetuating the cycle that caused the apocalypse in the first place because it’s whats been expected of him and taught to him, like at the end of dr3 anime how he becomes the principal of the same establishment that did HORRIFIC human experimentation and perpetuated a system that crushed anyone deemed ordinary under its weight. The school ends up taking no blame for its very real and intensely horrific acts because they simply blame despair for it, so of course now that the Ultimate Hope is running it that means all the despair is gone and now Hope will happily shine again. Neatly sweeping under the rug the covered up murders and torture done in the name of that hope before. It wasn’t the system, it was a few wildcards, trust the system Makoto, it’s all you’ve been told works isn’t it? Society has to have Hope’s Peak Makoto, the two are one in the same isn’t it?
In the end his title of Hope and the expectations forces him into the same blindfold of “for hope” that allowed Izuru to exist. All he knows and really is allowed to know thanks to future foundation is that he is Hope and has to make more Hope and that as such Hope’s Peak must exist as a symbol of that Hope. Which is why when I write post danganronpa 3 content and acknowledge the canon of “he principal now” I have characters who actively oppose and fight against the re-installment of such a system because it’s just such a bad idea but the propaganda and hope worship is so intense Makoto doesn’t even consider how it might not be a good idea.
Hope and Despair are just so entwined you cannot be an ultimate hope without understanding and being able to use ultimate despair. The two concepts are so twisted together that Junko can cause massive hope if she chooses (ie warriors of hope) and Makoto can create great despair (accidentally letting a second killing game happen thanks to his illegal terrorist rehabilitation program) not to mention hope to one is despair to another, and there really is no way of predicting which way the pendulum will point to until after the act of potential hope OR despair is taken. Ultimate Hope? Ultimate Despair? The talents are one in the same at the end of the day. Anyone deemed to be an Ultimate Hope is one thought of “greater good” away from the next Tragedy. Makoto is no different, and the system will inevitably push his morals to that point if no one intervenes.
Akane, I know it wouldn't help saying that...you were brainwashed and you didn't know what you were doing nor could you stop. But...they probably know that it wasn't really you in control. At least, you wouldn't do that on normal circumstances.
Bwaaaaaahhh! *hic, hic* Bwaaaaahh!
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It's okay. Let it all out Akane, let it alllll out...
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*hic*......*hic*....*sniff*......
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Does it feel good? To finally let all that out? Not only your memory as a remnant, but the trauma and hardships you had to endure at such a young age?
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*sniff, sniff* A....A bit....?
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Good.
Now, it is important to remember that that wasn't really you.
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But...But it was me-
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Not it wasn't. That was only to brainwashed monster that Junko had infected to do her bidding just as the rest of your friends.
You've told me about yourself Akane. How you did everything in your power just to ensure the safety and protection of your younger siblings. How you tried to stop Monokuma all by yourself. And how you griefed when Nekomaru was taken from you...
That is you, Akane. A kind, selfless woman who will do anything to protect her friends and family.
While it can be said that you shouldn't do that all the time, as your life is just as precious...
But those traits are what define you as...you. The real you....and I'm sure your siblings know that as well.
The road ahead may be dangerous and filled with thorns, but I believe you can be up to the task. To try and live for their stake.
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........................*Akane wipes her face*
Yeah.....yeah I....think you're right....Thank Miss Miaya....
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You're welcome Akane.
Someone at some point called Surge Sonic's Wario and I was like "what?", but also went made this...
Bakudeku vs togachako
Why do you think Makoto using the NWP was the wrong thing to do? The despair states class 77-b were in was objectively bad and self destructive and removing them so they back to normal should be a good thing. Also I wouldn’t say what Makoto is doing with the NWP isn’t more brainwashing, it’s deprogramming.
I've talked a bit about my hatred for NWP and how it is used in DR2 here, but it really comes down to this:
Forcibly removing people's memories to make them better people is not the correct answer.
Forcibly removing people's memories and reverting them back to a previous state and then rewriting over those memories with new ones is not the right answer.
Especially when you take DR3 into account and that Makoto etc. didn't know about the brainwashing video or when the Remnants fell to despair, they're just making best guess scenarios and wiping out all of their time at Hope's Peak, which effectively means they are wiping out their memories of real Chiaki and replacing them with DR2!therapybot!Chiaki, which is NOT the correct answer, no matter how you slice it.
The end of DR3 is very good about this - you don't make people better by removing the bad thing. You don't make things better by removing the memories of your past, even if they're memories you regret or hate or don't want to ever address again ever. Those memories are still there. They're still important.
Removing memories is not an effective or even good way of deprogramming people who are brainwashed.
Makoto's luck kicked into full gear with all the stuff that happened in DR2 and the shutdown and getting the Remnants as we see them in DR3, which is not a result of them having their memories removed. They still have their memories and are able to recover.
And yeah. Brainwashing is maybe a stretch (it's Junko's word for it, after all) - but they are reaching into a group of people's heads and mucking around with their brains and making choices for who they want them to be and how they want them to be that way (no, no, you can't be Remnants, so we will remove everything that led to that development and make you into someone we want by meddling with your brain)....
Sounds a bit like brainwashing.
Not the way Junko did it, for sure.
Still sounds a bit like brainwashing.
Girl's got a point.
Yoooo can I get uhhhh unnecessary crossover? Been listening to the Adventure Time soundtrack in the height on my My Hero Academia craze.
Anyways Finn’s quirk means that he is Deeply Irresponsible About Personal Safety. He’s still an excellent fighter and has a wonderful hero heart and boy does he go through arms. PB is his support technician largely because she likes him enough to squeeze it in between her other projects. Marceline has a wicked strong quirk but mainly is interested in her band and her girlfriend. Jake struggles with the desire to be a hero and the desire to do petty crimes.
I got a whole au cookin but like that’s just who I am folks 💪🏻