Edgin Might Not Be A Bard

Edgin might not be a bard

I recently saw Honor Among Thieves, and Chris Pine’s character, Edgin, doesn’t actually use any bardic abilities. He doesn't cast any spells (except for the thing at the end which anyone could have used), the things that I’ve heard explained as bardic inspiration can be explained away through other things (Holga using the semi-melted axe could just be because it is still functional, Simon attuning to the helm at the last moment is just the “last time is the charm” trope, and Doric now trusting humans makes sense considering the shit that just happened), and any character can learn to perform and play instruments. He might just be a fighter or rouge with performance and instrument proficiencies.

Also I don’t think that Holga uses any Barbarian abilities either. Simon cast magic and notes that he is a wild magic sorcerer, and Doric uses wild shape several time.

All said though, I did really enjoy the movie. I loved the easter eggs, the things from the game (like the owlbear and mimic), and I enjoyed the plot. But I’m still not sure Edgin is actually a bard.

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