Someone Just Paid Me Fifteen Dollars To Tell Y'all My Opinions On White Vegans So Here You Go.

Someone just paid me fifteen dollars to tell y'all my opinions on white vegans so here you go.

It's bullshit. The entire premise is bullshit. Everything about veganism is bullshit just in general, but white veganism in general is the fucking SSS-tier FGO Merlin levels of bullshit.

If you're a vegan out of dietary necessity--this post is not about you, move on with your life. That includes "just don't like meat/animal products" because we protect picky eaters indiscriminately in this household.

If you're a vegan because you think it's more ethical your head is so far up your ass you might as well be eating animal products cuz that's what shit sure is.

There is not a single thing ethical about white veganism. It's ridiculous to act that way. Veganism is literally turning your diet into imperialism. What, you think that your quinoa and acai smoothie made with coconut milk and nutella isn't a horrific injustice done to pretty much every indigenous piece of land in the name of feeding your consumerist fad bullshit?

If killing cows is so bad, what's y'all's take on the palm oil plantations they're burning down the Amazon for? Sure, orangutans are really charismatic and all, but what about the 1/3rd known species of birds worldwide and a full 30,000 species of endemic plants in it as well? Where does turning once-staple foods of indigenous people, like quinoa, into massive monocultures which the people who grew it can no longer afford it since it's all getting shipped out via cargo plane to your friendly neighborhood Target factor in?

The meat industry is hurting the environment due to greenhouse gases, you say? What about all the produce that's having to be shipped in from overseas and international waters because it's not like you can fucking grow your pineapples in North Dakota? Where does that carbon footprint factor into the situation? Are you actually being vegan out of concern for the environment, or is it a meaningless gesture to be popular on social media about while refusing to examine the inherent classism and racism baked into the very foundations of your "anyone can do it" diet?

Do you dislike factory farms? Join the club! Neither do most farmers, funnily enough! But where's the exploitation in your neighbor's backyard chicken coop eggs? Is the rabbit fur an angora naturally sheds on its own being spun into high-quality yarn cruelty to the animal? Can you explain to me where the honeybees are getting the bad deal?

If your issue on ethical veganism is animal cruelty, then you campaign for more stringent animal husbandry regulations. You support your local small-scale farmers which treat their animals right that are otherwise getting shoved out of the market due to corporate farm fields. Because if you've got enough grocery money to shop exclusively vegan, you're the kind of person who can go to a farmer's market and actually support your community that way with no real issue, because again, your entire diet culture is wrapped up in needing to be seen as better than others more than anything else. You turned a type of food into evangelical protestantism.

Nothing about white veganism makes any fucking sense the second you look at it for .2 seconds. It is a performative diet made for wannabe Instagram influencers who get off on telling other people that they're evil for eating honey, graciously ignoring that their agave nectar is causing an ecological crisis of overharvesting and throwing desert ecosystems out of whack, among everything else.

It's foolish. It's ridiculous. It's literally not how any of this fucking works. I'm exhausted of people not treating veganism for what it is: Just another fad diet made to take money out of "empaths"' wallets, only this time it's actually managing to fuck over the entire global environment and multiple levels of working class citizens, rather than just being a waste of everyone's fucking time! Congrats, vegans. You have done literally nothing right. You made every single wrong choice and have to double down on it now, because just like in a cult, the second you admit to yourself that maybe this whole schtick isnt environmentally friendly in the slightest, you now have to deal with the repercussions of Literally Everything You Did!

Much easier to just talk about how much healthier you are now that you take a shot of apple cider vinegar every morning on the internet. Takes less effort that way. Get well soon.

EDIT: For clarification just in case any vegans would prefer not to get needlessly mad at me for shit I did not say or mean on a post that I did not tag yet got notes anyway:

"When we say white veganism, we are not saying vegans who are white (as so many of them seem to think). White veganism is a specific type of militant veganism perpetrated by white people in which their diet is a status symbol masquerading as social media activism, where it's more important to stay updated with the current instagram superfood trend than any meaningful activism. The focus has become even less on animal care and has reduced into reactionary anti-animal, and anti-human.

White veganism is a direct cause of purity and social media-based performative culrure and its inherent anxieties, and can act significantly closer to a cult than merely a style of eating. They are often evangelist and militant in their natures, shaming nonvegans out of the concept that "anyone can choose to be vegan" and therefore not living vegan is a moral crime, as well as perpetuating racism, classism, and ableism in their ideals.

I have genuinely no opinion on veganism or vegans. At best I find them often empathetic but misguided and not understanding the full picture (or, if they are vegan out of dietary restrictions or needs, that is not relevant to any of this and i would not presume to speak about nor for them).

But I do have a deep and passionate disdain for veganism as an Instagram trend, especially when those who view it as such act as though it is a moral superiority and prerogative, rather than a fad choice which has become commercialized and sought to make large profits on, often at great social and cultural harm to countless indigenous cultures."

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