Anakin in the movies and legends should be given a lot more credit than people think. Anakin even as far back as ATOC is stronger than most people think the people who worked on the films made sure to put Anakin as front and center as one of the strongest jedi the order has to offer. For example, Obi-wan is literally mocked by Dooku and said to be a disappointment yet people fail to realize and pay attention to the fact that Dooku never says anything like that to Anakin in their fight. This is how Dooku looks after their fight
Does that look like the face of someone who had an easy time against their opponent and had no trouble? I don't think so. Now lets add more stuff to suggest Anakin is no joke
When asked who would win in a fight -- Ray Park’s Darth Maul or Hayden Christensen’s Anakin Skywalker -- Gillard had no hesitation. "Hayden would cream Darth Maul."
Source: Sword Master & Apprentice
Here Nick Gillard said with no hesitation that Anakin in ATOC would "cream" Maul not beat him not that it would be close but low diff him. Anakin grows significantly stronger than this(well he would if it weren't for TCW) to the point where becomes stronger than any jedi in the jedi order
This is Anakin Skywalker:
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.
He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.
Source: Revenge of the Sith
Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protege, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived.
Source: The Making of Revenge of the Sith
At nine years of age he had been an expert Podracer; by twenty-one he would have been a galactic champion. With or without Qui-Gon's or Watto's help, he would eventually have won the Boonta Eve race, and his reputation would have been made. He would have bought freedom for himself, his mother, all the slaves in Mos Espa, gone on to win the Grand Races on Malastare, been hailed in the gambling casinos on Ord Mantell and Coruscant. He wouldn't have become a Jedi--he would have been too old to train--would never have learned to wield a lightsaber. But he would have been able to fly rings around the finest of Jedi pilots, including Saesee Tiin.
And he still would have been stronger in the Force than any of them.
Source: Labyrinth of Evil
"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger."
Source: Revenge of the Sith
I’m more powerful than any of you.
It was a boy’s expression of anger, but it was true.
Source: Legacy of the Force: Bloodlines
Even after all these months, she couldn't make herself entirely believe that actual Jedi blood ran in her veins-not only Jedi blood, but the blood of arguably the most powerful Jedi in history.
Source: Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
Even one quote in junior novel from Yoda's perspective says Anakin was the strongest and someone asked about it to the author and the author went out of his way to say yes he meant to include Yoda in that statement and that George *made* *sure* Anakin was the strongest jedi. So if an author went out of his way to say "Yeah Anakin is the strongest the creator himself made sure to make that clear." Why do people still question these quotes?
Some people i have seen to act say "Oh Dooku was told to hold back on Anakin in ROTS that means he is a lot stronger and would win their fight if they fought for real" yet people also fail to realize that was the original plan up until Anakin and Obi-wan went all out and Dooku stopped holding back because if he didn't he would be dead. Even then we have quotes saying Anakin is stronger than Dooku
"Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Go forth, my boy. Go forth, and bring peace to our Empire."
Source: Revenge of the Sith
"Soon, I shall have a new apprentice. One far younger and more powerful."
Source: Revenge of the Sith
Sidious then turned his attention to Anakin Skywalker, knowing that young Skywalker was much stronger in the Force than Tyranus.
Source: The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
Sidious bared his teeth, but only briefly. "Darth Tyranus knew what he risked, Lord Vader. If he had been stronger in the dark side, you would be dead, and he would be my right hand."
Source: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
Re-live the incredible battle between two of the most powerful Jedi of all - as they fight to the finish on a Trade Federation Cruiser! Only the strongest Jedi remains—will it be the light side or the dark side of the Force?
Source: Battle Arena: Federation Cruiser
Sidious is merely playing for time until he is ready to replace Tyranus with a new, more powerful apprentice, who will help him to achieve his ultimate aim: utter subjugation of the galaxy under Sith rule and the formation of a merciless new order — the Galactic Empire.
Source: Revenge of the Sith Incredible Cross-Sections
Also before anyone mentions this Obi-wan as much as i like him did not beat a prime Anakin. They make it quite clear Anakin is above Obi-wan under normal circumstance
"When I started, I figured that a youngling is a level one. And somebody like Kit Fisto - seven. I did take it to eight and nine, but not many people know that. Eight and nine is cheat. So Obi-Wan is eight. Yoda is nine. Mace is eight, bordering on nine. Anakin is nine."
Source: https://youtu.be/Z2-iZNQrFBA?t=908
"Yes, but it's like a Richter scale - an earthquake - and so the difference between seven and eight and eight and nine is enormous."
Source: https://youtu.be/Z2-iZNQrFBA?t=946
"Obi-Wan has gone up one level from Episode I to Episode III, but it’s a huge jump from one level to another. It’s not just about a style of fighting—it’s mental as well. Anakin has gone up probably four levels from Episode II to Episode III. So he’s gone beyond Obi-Wan, but he hasn’t gone beyond him mentally."
Source: http://www.theforce.net/episode3/story/nick_gillard_talks_rots_game_92147.asp
The ease with which Kenobi had taken command of the situation was frightening. More frightening was the fact that of the two, Skywalker was reportedly the greater warrior.
Source: Revenge of the Sith
He had been a superior fighter even when he had been Anakin Skywalker, and yet Obi-Wan had defeated him.
Source: Death Star
So why did Obi-wan win? Well its because Anakin was vulnerable
Anakin had still been between worlds then, and vulnerable.
Source: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
Now even then Obi-wan admits he is going to lose if it weren't for the high ground
As Anakin’s lightsaber hummed toward him, a calm certainty filled Obi-Wan. Anakin was going to kill him. Oh, he’d make Anakin work for it. He’d fight with everything he had. But he was positive, with the sureness that came from any Force-driven insight, that he would die at Anakin’s hands.
Source: Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization
So yeah Anakin is one of the top tiers in SW not much else to say
1. Ok first the mechanical arm thing was because it's more helpful to have artificial intelligent arms that help with the project than just being a good multi tasker you can't do everything at once
2. Second because they were made to finish the project that is their whole purpose they don't care about anything else
3. Third because it's much simpler than doing everything at once with your entire focus on the machine abd the arms can help
4. The arms weren't solely responsible if someone wants to kill someone another person tells then to do it and they do who is responsible? Octavius was on the brink when the arms got to him he was a good person but went down a spiral of insanity because he inadvertently killed his wife and lost his life's wok plus the arms kept pushing to finish the project increasing his anger and motivation to new heights. It shows how far a person will go after losing everything and with a litlle push becomes bad before the Dark Knight
5. He was trying to create a fusion power source but the thing was he miscalculated, it destabilized(he did not make it bigger on purpose) and he was confident he could stop it but unfortunately it didn't work
6. It's to power the city do you know how much money you could make by investing in that and you can shut it down because as Otto says "They pay the bills" so people will pay them to continue with the pronect plus it will make Oscorp seen in a better light due to them investing when Norman was around in weapons.
7. He says it's a gift multiple times
8. She was in love with astronaut she says so herself! She tells Peter she is done being a empty seat as he is constantly not around for her compared to even Harry and before she tells him that she is seeing someone tell her if you want to date he says the opposite and she is like "I am marrying this guy fuck you for making me wait so long". So yeah Mary Jane is marrying another person because she's fed up with Peter and fell in love with someone else. Also leaving him at the altar was suppose to be something else but... Also that pussy can kill the strongest normal human on earth. Oh like Batman is any better with him endangering his robins every 5 minutes since they were 10 to 14
9. He did get a hint but he is trying to work things out with her and trying to compensate. Any low life crimminal with a half a brain that notices that he is protecting a famous actress(Literally theres is like posters withth her face on it) more than usual also how about Harry fucking Osborn? You know the guy hell bent in killing Spiderman? As for your second point and thord he is srill trying to work out a way to do both that's what he has been trying to do in the first place in the movie balancing things out. Your fourth point probably because finding one person in particular in New York is almost impossible plus he doesn't boast on that and Otto only knew because of Harry showing him who Peter is
10. Andrew Garfield is horribly misscast as Peter Parker and Tobey in this movie is not suppose to be wisecracking or highly happy
11. He was losing his powers because of a mental struggle you know psychology? Just like someone witha fear of something. No he quit because i can't keep a job i want because I am spiderman,my boss hates me, my best friend hates me,lost my girlfriend to my asshole boss's son,i potentially lost a mentor of mine and couldn't say his wife and my aunt is struggling because she can't pay the bills and because I caused my uncle to die. His life isn't hard it's terrible because of being spiderman he has too much to work with. Also the comic sounds pretty bad compared to that "boohoo i lost"
12. When your faster than any police car and can knock people around easily plus i can web them up. Batman is nowhere close to Spiderman in speed or strength or can do much compared to webs
13. What mugging scene? The scene where he walks away is when police are involved in something? Did you even see the movie?
14. I can point out a million in the dark knight starting with Harvey Dent making no sense
(SPOILER WARNING: The following is an in depth critical analysis. If you haven’t seen this movie yet, you may want to before reading this review)
So the first Spider-Man movie was… less than satisfactory. How was Spider-Man 2?
This movie often appears in many Top 10 Superhero Movie lists. I’ve got a feeling that those people haven’t actually seen this movie in a very long time. Or if they did, it was possibly through rose tinted lenses.
Like with the previous movie, lets start with what I did like. First, my favourite character, J Jonah Jameson. He’s so funny! Every time he’s on screen I’m in stitches. My favourite scene has to be when he finally concedes that Spider-Man is a hero and that he feels guilty for supposedly driving him away, only for him to return to his old self when Spidey steals the costume back. Hilarious!
Aunt May gets a lot more to do this time around and Rosemary Harris does an excellent job with the extra material. I actually became invested in her little subplot about losing her home. It’s pretty much all she has left of Uncle Ben and it’s sad to see her packing her things and moving away. When Peter Parker tells her the truth, that it was because of him that Uncle Ben died, my heart went out to her, thanks to Rosemary Harris’ understated yet powerful performance. I also loved that speech she makes about how there is a hero in all of us (does Aunt May know Peter is Spider-Man? Because that’s how it’s coming across) And a special shout out has to go to the bit where Aunt May smacks Doc Ock with an umbrella. Followed by this little gem:
Spider-Man: “We sure showed him.”
Aunt May: “What do you mean we?!”
Me: Like a motherfucking BOSS!!! You go girl!
James Franco is given a character less incompetent this time around and does a very good job in the role. Harry Osborn is clearly extremely insecure. He’s trying to live up to his father’s memory and his friendship with his best friend is complicated due to Peter taking photos of the man he believes killed his father. As we see his world fall apart, with Doc Ock practically putting Oscorp out of business and discovering that Peter is Spider-Man, it appears that Harry has finally cracked, as he starts hallucinating Norman in the mirror, which leads to him discovering the Goblin lair and the horrible truth. This is great stuff and I’m curious to see where they go with this.
Alfred Molina does a great job as Doc Ock. The scenes at the beginning with Peter and his wife and the scenes where his humanity comes through are wonderfully performed. The CGI has improved a lot since the first movie, with the tentacles being brought to life with a mix of animatronics and computer graphics. The action sequences are great too, the best being the fight on the train. You really feel the danger and peril these characters are in.
Pity the character is complete crap! (Angry rant in 3… 2… 1)
Who in their right mind would give their mechanical arms artificial intelligence?!
Who in their right mind would program said artificial intelligence with the thought process to kill people and rob banks?!
And if you have to build an inhibitor chip to protect your higher brain functions from the artificial intelligence, WHY NOT JUST BUILD A SET OF ARMS WITHOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!
In the comics, the arms were controlled by a control panel until an accident occurred which fused the arms to his back and allowed him to control them telepathically (don’t ask). The reason the accident was caused was because his personal life was so crap that he put everything into his work, becoming more cynical, disrespectful and reckless in the process. He’s a perfect example of genius gone too far and how allowing your work to consume you is a dangerous thing. It astounds me that they scrapped this potentially interesting and thought provoking character study of what is, essentially, a workaholic in favour of a bog standard ‘the AI did it’ plot. It’s boring and negates any potential character growth for Doc Ock.
I’m not even going to comment on the idiocy of him creating a star (see me not commenting), but he does realise that stars have gravitational pulls right? That’s why it started pulling everything toward it. So what good would it do making it bigger?! Did the arms tell him to do it? Why? What possible reason could they have?
Plus this doesn’t sound like the best business venture for Oscorp, does it? The reason fossil fuels are still being used is because there is still money in it. Renewable energy is infinite. There is no supply and demand for it. So any business that invests in Doc Ock’s star isn’t going to profit from it. There won’t be any need to create more stars or sell them. Just one star and you’re done. It’s a total waste of money.
Also, is intelligence a privilege or a gift? If you know, please let Doc Ock know because he can’t seem to make up his mind on the subject.
I suppose I should talk about Peter and Mary Jane.
Lets start with Mary Jane. Now am I right in thinking that she’s only marrying that guy to make Peter jealous? I mean dating another guy is one thing, but marrying him? At what stage do you come out and say 'only joking’? We’re clearly supposed to want these two to be together, but I reckon Peter should just date the girl in the flat next door. He’s saying the reason they can’t date is because he’s Spider-Man, but I think it’s because MJ keeps dicking around, giving mixed signals and making things unnecessarily complicated. My anger levels officially went through the roof when she left her groom at the alter without even having the courage to dump him face to face. She just leaves a note saying 'Fuck you. I’m running off with the pussy in the red and blue pyjamas.’ (At least that’s what I imagine the note says) What a true inspiration to humanity.
Peter Parker is becoming a hateful character too. He still can’t get a bloody clue about MJ and move on, insisting on reading poetry and attempting to woo her in his own plonkerish way. Here’s what I don’t get. He says they can’t be together because his enemies will use her against him. First of all, WHAT ENEMIES?! YOU HAVE NO ENEMIES! Supervillains only seem to occur once in a blue moon in this universe and the petty criminals hardly seem to care. So I’m calling bullshit on that. (plus, surely the only way they can do that is if they know your identity. And the best way to hide your identity would be to, oh I don’t know, KEEP YOUR FUCKING MASK ON!!!) Second, surely just knowing her puts her in danger. The only way to keep her safe would be to cut her out of your life completely, and you’re clearly not up for that. So you might as well just have the sex. Third, if you two can’t be together, why are you still flirting with her? And fourth, you keep boasting to people that you take Spider-Man’s pictures. Well? Don’t you think that might put your loved ones in danger? Like how Doc Ock did when he threw that car through the window and kidnapped MJ? Idiot!
Tobey Maguire, I’m sorry to say, is horribly miscast in the role. He just can’t get across the wise cracking side of the character. He just sounds incredibly dopey and whiney.
The writing doesn’t help matters either.
Lets talk about the subplot where he’s losing his powers… for some reason. Only to get them back… for some reason. I have no idea what that was about and the movie doesn’t even try to explain. It’s just used to artificially force drama into a fight scene.
Then comes the Spider-Man No More stuff. In the comics the reason he did this was because Doc Ock humiliated him, knocking his confidence and making him question whether he’s in over his head. In the movie the reason is because… his life is a bit hard. Oh boohoo! My job sucks and I can’t get a girlfriend! SO WHAT?! Life isn’t going the way you want it. Big deal. Welcome to the rest of the human race.
In fact, does Spider-Man have to get involved with every single crime? Surely the NYPD aren’t that incompetent. Surely Spider-Man can afford to let one or two go. The movie even goes as far as to say that Spider-Man has single handedly reduced crime by 75%. Bollocks! The reason Batman was able to reduce crime in Gotham was because he was working with the police department. One man can’t do that on his own! This isn’t Hong Kong Phooey!
Plus it’s hard to sympathise with a character when he spots a mugging occurring less than three feet away from him and just turns his back and walks away. What the fuck?! I know you’re not Spider-Man anymore, but couldn’t you at least call the police or something? I don’t care how many children you save from burning buildings. I officially hate you now because of that.
Is Spider-Man 2 one of the greatest superhero movies of all time? No. There’s the occasional flash of brilliance. but it’s mostly bad. Not as bad as the first Spider-Man, but still pretty bad. The love story is bullshit, the villain plot is ridiculous and instead of the writers focusing their efforts on character development, they instead give us mostly pointless shit. Did we really need the scene with Peter in the laundromat? Did we really need the Chinese woman singing the Spidey theme? Or the rent guy next door? Or the obnoxious usher? Or that weird scene in the elevator? (I don’t even get that scene. Is it supposed to be funny? Because it’s not. It just makes the film grind to a halt)
Enough. I’m going to watch The Dark Knight. Get some good superhero fiction back in my system.
Not today (she’s recording)
Ok um, one thing I saw rather recently and it's basically blowing my mind and it's the fact there are at least around 30 statements on Anakin being the strongest jedi/warrior/sith either of all time or in his era. None of them say he is potentially the strongest jedi or that he could be they just outright says he is. I am not going to post all of them but the majority
Clearly Anakin was as strong in the Force as any Jedi who had ever sat on the Council. But as Obi-Wan had told him time and again, the essence of being a Jedi didn't hinge on attaining mastery of the Force, but on attaining mastery over oneself.
(Obi-Wan Kenobi | Star Wars: Labyrinth of Evil)
But Coruscant was not only the heart of the government and the location of the Galactic Senate. It was also the home of the Jedi Temple. As the Separatist attack began, a message was beamed to the Outer Rim, summoning the Jedi’s greatest warriors home. Before the Separatist fleet could leave the Coruscant star system with the Chancellor, they found themselves under attack. Waves of clone starfighters, led by Obi-Wan and Anakin, stormed around their ships.
(Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith junior novelization)
This is Anakin Skywalker: The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace. He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.
(Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)
"It will be," he said slowly, meditatively, as though he spoke only to himself, "an embarrassment to be captured by him." The voice that answered him was so familiar that sometimes his very thoughts spoke in it, instead of in his own. "An embarrassment you can survive, Lord Tyranus. After all, he is the greatest Jedi alive, is he not? And have we not ensured that all the galaxy shares this opinion?"
(Dooku and Palpatine | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)
"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger."
(Mace Windu | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)
"We won't try, Anakin. We will do. After all, they are only Senators. Most of them couldn't hide what they're thinking from a brain-damaged blindworm, let alone the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy."
(Palpatine | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)
"And even if the prophecy has been misread. Anakin is the one Jedi we can best hope would survive an encounter with a Sith Lord."
(Agen Kolar | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)
Even after all these months, she couldn't make herself entirely believe that actual Jedi blood ran in her veins-not only Jedi blood, but the blood of arguably the most powerful Jedi in history.
(Leia Organa | Star Wars: Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor)
"You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master." "What? How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! I'm more powerful than any of you. How can you be on the Council and not be a Master?" It was a boy's expression of anger, but it was true. And, as history repeated itself because it had no other choice, Jacen was more powerful than any of them except Luke. And he was growing closer to Luke's strength by the day.
(Jacen Solo | Star Wars: Legacy of the Force - Bloodlines)
"Haden has written a story that goes to the emotional core of everything that happens in Episode III. Obi-Wan must confront every doubt, every misgiving about his time with Anakin. Has he failed his Padawan? Has he missed opportunities? Is he even worthy to have been the mentor to the galaxy's most powerful Jedi?"
(Randy Stradley | Star Wars Insider 79 - Clone Wars Villains Face Their Reckoning)
Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protege, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived. "Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him," he notes. "But when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes."
(Dreamwatch #113 - Interview with Nick Gillard)
"Anakin's the most powerful Jedi around."
(Justin Lambros | Disney Adventures: Super Comics Special May 2005)
Many years from now, Luke and Leia Skywalker, offspring of the most powerful Jedi who ever lived, would understand their true destiny.
(Star Wars Revenge of the Sith - The Movie Storybook)
"Anakin's style has changed completely between Episode II and Episode III. He now no longer cares. He knows he's unbeatable. He's far more dangerous than anybody in the universe."
(Nick Gillard | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith - Prima Official Game Guide)
Anakin Skywalker is the most powerful Jedi in over a thousand years.
(Star Wars: Miniatures - Ultimate Missions - Revenge of the Sith)
This makes Anakin, in effect, a Jedi Master, a rank that Anakin, with his unprecedented power in the Force, feels has been long overdue.
(Star Wars: Miniatures - Ultimate Missions - Revenge of the Sith)
Anakin Skywalker was the most powerful Jedi the galaxy had ever known . . . Anakin was also peerless in combat, invincible against any opponent.
(Star Wars: The Official Figurine Collection #8)
Thus, Darth Vader becomes a ‘fallen angel’ figure. From being the most powerful Jedi, a fearless hero of the Republic, Anakin falls to the lowest possible point because of his desire for power and security.
(Star Wars: The Official Figurine Collection #12)
Deep and layered are the schemes of the Dark Lord Sidious, Sith Master and architect of the fall of the Republic. Perceiving in young Anakin Skywalker a strength as yet unseen among even the greatest of the Jedi, the Sith Lord engineers elements into his plans, rich in contingencies, that might either turn the troubled Jedi to his own purpose, or else destroy him altogether.
(Star Wars: Sideshow Collectibles - Asajj Ventress statue)
Darth Sidious adheres to a tradition of secrecy imposed by the Sith a thousand years before, working his evil schemes through intermediaries and dupes while remaining hidden in the shadows. His organization includes politicians and anarchists, crime lords and corrupt law enforcement, schemers and dreamers, the wealthy and the impoverished-and, as the war draws to a close, the most powerful Jedi Knight alive: Anakin Skywalker.
(Star Wars: The Clone Wars Campaign Guide)
The mightiest of the Jedi is Anakin Skywalker, rumored to be the Chosen One destined to bring balance to the Force.
(Star Wars: The Clone Wars Episode Guide)
Skywalker was seduced by the dark side of the Force. His boundless abilities fueled a sense of pride that hastened his fall . . . Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple.
(Official Star Wars Website - Databank: Darth Vader)
Here is a kicker there is this statement repeated 3 separate times by 3 Revenge of the sith related material implying this line was suppose to in the movie because you do not just repeat this line 3 times without a higher up wanting you to put it there in all 3 sources people are going to read
"Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Go forth, my boy. Go forth, and bring peace to our Empire."
(Palpatine | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)
"Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you," the cloaked figure said. “Now go, and bring peace to the Empire."
(Palpatine | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith junior novelization)
"You have done well, my new apprentice. Your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Now go, Lord Vader, and bring peace to the Empire."
(Darth Sidious | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith comic)
As the Clone Wars rage across the galaxy, young Jedi hero Anakin Skywalker falls to the dark side of the Force and becomes the most powerful enemy ever faced by the Jedi.
(Hasbro Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith action figure line)
Like for anyone wanting to argue Yoda or Mace are stronger than Anakin and could beat him in a fight you have to argue somehow all the people involved in this were exaggerating each and every time and that somehow no one else rained in or said they couldn't say that and let them license those statements. I don't know about anyone else but if an author, series creator, or licensed material says something over a dozen times about their character when does that statement stop being a mistake they might have made and start becoming an actual fact in their universe?
Actually he is most likely in the top 5 with his feats and just scaling
its weird bc anakin is supposed to be be the MOST force potent charcater in the star wars universe but he just fucking NEVER USES THE FORCE, FOR ANYTHING? he ONLY EVER lightsaber battle people, which, like, has nothing do with being as powerful as a jedi
like the emperor uses force lightning all the time and even when yoda fought he was using his powerful force abilities to LIFT SHIT and throw it around but anakin NEVER DOES THAT he ONLY chokes people and then lightsaber fights, literally anyone can use a lightsaber
The Evolution of Anakin Skywalker's Music (From 9 to 45 Years Old)
Anakin´s story in music by John Williams
It does matter
It's my fault... It's all my fault... I don't reach out... Maybe I do but no one answers... But that doesn't matter...
Only thing I disagree on is tbat your sayimg Amazing Spiderman has more humanity than any raimi film which in my opinion is not true at all
Oh frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! Did you hear the news? I’d be surprised if you didn’t. EVERYONE has heard the news by now. A couple of days ago it was reported that the deal between Marvel and Sony that allowed the two studios to share custody for the rights of Spider-Man has fallen through. Spider-Man is no longer going to be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Speaking as someone who is not only a big Spider-Man fan, but also a very vocal critic of the current state of Marvel and Disney’s cynical and convoluted ‘shared universe’, this caused quite a reaction when I first heard the news. I’m as happy as a man who just found out his high school crush likes him back on the same day he won the lottery. Happy, but not surprised. In fact I’m more surprised that other people were surprised by the news. The deal Marvel and Sony managed to strike was almost unheard of. Two rival movie studios in mutual cooperation. Never thought I’d see the day. But if you thought this was going to be the new norm, then I’m afraid you don’t understand this industry. I knew, or at least suspected, that once Sony had a hit on their hands, they’d cut ties with Marvel and Disney. It was only a matter of time. Now that Spider-Man: Far From Home has made over a billion dollars at the box office and now they have found success with their own non-MCU films, Venom and Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse, the simple fact of the matter is they don’t need Marvel or Disney anymore. So they’ve flown the coop. Yes it’s possible they could renegotiate the deal, but given how unlikely the prospect of the initial deal was in the first place, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. It’s more likely they’re going to take their ball and go home. Sony’s Universe Of Marvel Characters (despite its incredibly clunky name) is now going to be firmly built upon and expanded, and I for one could not be more excited.
Of course not everyone shares my excitement. Disney, for one thing, aren’t happy. Nor are the cast. Jeremy Renner has made his views clear, begging Sony to give the rights to Spidey back. (Perhaps he should focus more on his own character Hawkeye, considering what a mess he’s become). Die hard MCU fans aren’t pleased neither. Same goes for ‘celebrity’ fans like Kevin Smith, a filmmaker who preferred to be called a comic book expert on the Venom Blu-Ray bonus features presumably because he hasn’t actually been relevant as a filmmaker since the 90s. (it’s worth reading his thoughts just for a laugh. He honestly thinks Disney aren’t greedy, corporate bastards. ROFL). And of course the so-called ‘professional’ critics, who for years have deluded themselves into thinking the MCU is actually good, have been writing their own little think pieces about what all this means. Can Spider-Man possibly survive without Iron Man and pals to prop him up? To which the answer is obviously yes. Sony had the rights to Spidey for fourteen years before the Marvel deal. They made five Spider-Man movies, four of which were massive box office successes. They also released Venom and Spider-Verse last year. Both hugely successful and the latter even won an Oscar, which is one more Oscar than Marvel Studios have ever won (sorry Black Panther. You were robbed).Can Spider-Man survive outside the MCU? Gee I don’t know. I guess somehow Sony will find the strength to soldier on without them.
Although, that being said, there’s not as many journalists siding with Disney as I thought there would be. There are quite a few articles explaining how this split could help Spidey in the long run, which is both absolutely true and refreshing to see. Hopefully this is a sign that we’re finally turning a corner and critics are starting to use their brains again. Like how everyone worshipped the ground Steven Moffat walked on until Sherlock Series 4 where everyone realised that he’s actually shit and has always been shit.
Spider-Man leaving the MCU is the best thing you could do for the character at this stage. The way he’s been treated since joining the Marvel clusterfuck has been nothing short of appalling. I’ve made it no secret how much I detest this version of Spider-Man and some might dismiss what I’m about to say out of hand, perhaps claiming I’m biased because I’ve said numerous times that I love The Amazing Spider-Man films starring Andrew Garfield. Two films I will go to my grave defending because they were bloody good movies. People were just butt hurt because it wasn’t Spider-Man 4. Never mind the fact that the original Sam Raimi films were never that good to begin with (seriously, have any of you actually watched Spider-Man 2 recently? Trust me. It’s not as good as you remember it). No, I promise you that if MCU Spidey existed in a vacuum, I would still hate him just as much for the simple reason that he has absolutely nothing in common with the source material. Under the watchful, Orwellian eye of Marvel, they took Spider-Man, a character most famous for being a working class everyman, and turned him into the most spoilt and privileged little bum-balloon I’ve ever seen.
Spider-Man: Homecoming was a terrible movie. Plain and simple. A cynically produced, written by committee, pile of wank that gets so much of Spidey’s character and story completely wrong, it’s almost impressive. No longer a teenager/young adult struggling to balance his superhero life, his school work, his career and his social life, instead we got a groomed Mary Sue who doesn’t have to fight for anything because everything is basically handed to him on a silver platter courtesy of Iron Man. We never see him struggle. He’s not relatable. He never has to face consequences for his actions. He misses God knows how many classes and debate group meetings and yet he never gets punished for it. Sure he gets sent to detention a couple of times, but we see him leave whenever he bloody wants to. It’s just boring. If there’s no struggle, where’s the tension? And the less said about the villain, the better. Taking an eccentric antagonist like the Vulture and turning him into the stereotypical blue collar dad trying to provide for his family has got to be one of the most uninspired and blatantly lazy bits of characterisation I think I’ve ever seen. And that’s not to mention the supporting cast. Aunt May is youthed for no reason other than to make sexist jokes at her expense with every man that comes within her general vicinity staring at her with their tongues hanging out and eyes as large as saucepans. Minor villains like Shocker and the Tinkerer have their characters reduced to unfunny comedy sidekicks. And then there’s Peter Parker’s gang of racial stereotypes. We have Peter’s best friend, the fat and nerdy Ned who has no real personality other than being fat and nerdy (and is without a doubt the most annoying character in the damn film). Flash has been racebent so now he’s the stereotypical arrogant Asian prick. Michelle has no character other than being the same sassy black teenager who don’t give a shit, a caricature so old now it’s practically been fossilised. And then there’s the love interest Liz, a character so bland and one dimensional that I had to look her name up. Oh and lets not forget that the majority of this Spider-Man’s story was nicked from Miles Morales because people are only going to empathise with his story if it revolves around a white kid, am I right?
You know, I get so frustrated whenever people slag off the Amazing Spider-Man movies and claim that these new movies are better because… well… WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! I’m sorry, but I was much more invested with Peter and Gwen than I ever was with Peter and… what’s her face? Or Peter and Michelle (who I categorically refuse to call MJ because she’s not MJ, is she? They just used the initials to pander to gullible fans. They didn’t have the guts to just make Mary Jane Watson black, did they? Of course not! We don’t want to alienate the casual racists, do we? They’re our main demographic after all). The reason why Peter and Gwen worked is because they’re well-written, three dimensional characters with great chemistry and whom we actually spend a significant amount of time getting to know. So when Gwen dies at the end of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, it becomes a heart wrenching moment because we’ve grown invested in this character and this relationship. If Michelle were to die in a future movie, I honestly wouldn’t bat a fucking eyelid. Even Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst had more chemistry than those two, and that relationship was a total shambles from start to finish.
It also helps that Peter and Gwen felt like real people. I loved the scene in the first movie where Peter awkwardly asks her out because it reminded me so much of how I asked my first girlfriend out. And that’s why I love the Amazing Spider-Man movies. Because out of all the Spidey films we’ve had over the past 17 years, the Amazing ones are the only ones in my opinion that manage to capture the humanity of the character. As fantastical as the world is, the characters, their relationships and their dilemmas are grounded firmly in reality. Homecoming on the other hand is just embarrassing. Despite casting teenage actors, none of the teenagers actually act like teenagers. They act like five year olds. It’s painfully obvious that the filmmakers are trying to pander to young kids and they clearly don’t know how to write them. Again, this is where the Amazing movies stands head and shoulders above the others. They’re not treated like kids or teenagers. They’re treated like people. Real people. Same goes for the villains. (Yes, even Electro, despite wonky execution).
But the main criticism people have with MCU Spidey is that these films aren’t actually about Spidey. They’re really about the MCU mascot Iron Man.
Now to be clear, I don’t necessarily have a problem with the idea of Iron Man being a surrogate father figure to Spidey. It could work. Captain America: Civil War, despite the clunky and contrived way in which Spidey was introduced to the MCU (oh you just happened to know about a masked vigilante we haven’t seen or heard of until now Tony? Okay. What about Daredevil and Luke Cage?… What do you mean they’re not in the movie?), did a good job of setting up the dynamic. Namely that Tony doesn’t actually care about Peter or his well being, merely using him for his own ends. Unless Americans have some kind of ‘Bring Your Child To A Warzone Day’ I don’t know about.
Despite its flaws, Civil War was good because it gave us an unsettling look at the characters we’ve been watching for years. We see Captain America consumed by his own naivety and idealism to the point where he can no longer see the bigger picture and we see Iron Man go from being an industrial capitalist to an authoritarian fascist. Homecoming could have followed up on that. Have Spidey realise that Tony doesn’t have his best interests at heart, reject him as a father figure and grow into his own man. Instead the movie seems to go out of its way to undo all the interesting things Civil War brought to the table. Of course Tony cares about Peter! Oh and his relationship problems with Pepper Potts have been magically fixed off screen and now they’re getting married! Relax people, it’s okay! Nothing morally complicated going on here! We apologise for assuming you’re actually intelligent and promise never to make you think about anything ever again!
Not only is this quite insulting to the audience, it also negatively impacts Spidey’s arc. Turns out the movie isn’t about Spider-Man becoming his own man. It’s about him proving he can be an Avenger. He’s constantly in the shadow of Iron Man and, more to the point, we’re supposed to be happy that he’s in the shadow of Iron Man.
Again, this is where the Amazing Spider-Man gets it right. The first movie is very much about father figures. Uncle Ben, Curt Connors and Gwen’s dad all play a role in Peter’s growth and development over the course of the film. He’s able to take all the lessons and advice he gets from the three and use them to become his own man. As director Marc Webb so eloquently put it, ‘it’s a story about a kid who grows up looking for his father and finds himself.’ Compare that to the current iteration of Spidey where Uncle Ben doesn’t even appear to exist in this continuity because he’s been completely supplanted by Iron Dad. Remind me again why people think the Amazing movies are shit?
The latest film, Spider-Man: Far From Home, is no better. Same problems as before only this time Mysterio gets MCU’d to death. Instead of the pathetic loser trying desperately to receive recognition for his talents, we basically get a rehash of the plot from Iron Man 3, which in turn was a rehash of the plot from The Incredibles. Mysterio is basically trying to supplant Iron Man because he got screwed over when he used to work for Stark, and it’s up to everyone’s favourite wall-crawler to stop him because there’s only room in this universe for one Iron Boy. Even when Iron Man is dead, he’s still front and centre of the fucking narrative. Here’s a bright idea. How about we make a Spider-Man film that’s actually, you know, about Spider-Man? (Oh yeah, spoiler alert, Iron Man dies in Avengers: Endgame. Not that it’s really spoiling anything because Endgame is a big piece of shit).
Here’s the thing. Everyone is blaming Sony for the deal breaking down, and okay, I’m not going to pretend that Sony aren’t cynical. As much as I love The Amazing Spider-Man movies, I’m well aware the only reason they exist is because Sony desperately wanted to keep the rights. They spent a stupid amount of money on The Amazing Spider-Man 2 to the point where it needed to make a billion dollars at the box office in order to make a decent profit (a feat only achieved at that time by Batman with The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises) and they crammed loads of characters and plot points into an already overstuffed movie in order to rush out their own shared universe to compete with Marvel. When that didn’t work, they went crawling to Marvel and Disney in the hopes that the MCU could bail them out of the shit. I get it. There’s plenty to criticise. But for the likes of Kevin Smith and other idiots to only blame Sony and defend Marvel is really quite galling to me because Marvel and Disney are just as cynical, if not more so.
Does anyone here actually know what the deal was? Basically the agreement was that Kevin Feige would get lead producer credit for any solo Spider-Man films and Marvel and Disney would get five percent of the cut. Meanwhile Spider-Man would be allowed to appear in any MCU film. Also, because Sony still hold the rights to the character, they get the final say on any creative decision regarding Spider-Man. Or at least that’s the theory anyway. In reality that wasn’t the case. Reportedly Marvel and Disney were so anal about keeping the plot of Avengers: Endgame a secret that they didn’t tell the screenwriters of Spider-Man: Far From Home what happens in the bloody film. And considering that the film follows directly on from Endgame, that’s quite a problem. Sony may have creative control over Spider-Man, but Marvel and Disney can still call the shots, deliberately sabotaging Sony in order to boost hype for their own films. Also Sony are actually worse off in this deal because Marvel and Disney are the ones making all the money. Spider-Man has appeared in three MCU films. Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. All three of these films made Marvel and Disney over a billion dollars at the box office. Sony meanwhile have only made two Spidey movies, Homecoming and Far From Home, only one of which has made over a billion and both of which Marvel and Disney get five percent of the profit. Now that Sony have finally got their billion dollar Spider-Man movie, Marvel and Disney had the cheek to propose that Sony share fifty percent of the profits with them. Because it’s not enough for Marvel and Disney to be making shit tons of money off their own films. No. They also want as much money as they can get out of films made by other studios that are only tangentially related to their’s. God forbid a movie studio should be allowed to keep all the profits from their movie.
So yeah, I’m glad Sony have split and are free to make their own movies again. Because Disney have got such a strangle hold on the entire industry that I’m always happy to see any studio or IP slip through their fingers. And I’m not the only one who thinks this. Do you know who else agrees with me? Stan Lee’s own daughter.
In an interview with TMZ, Joan Lee slammed Disney for their lack of compassion when her father passed away:
“When my father died, no one from Marvel or Disney reached out to me. From day one, they have commoditised my father’s work and never shown him or his legacy any respect or decency. In the end, no one could have treated my father worse than Marvel and Disney’s executives.”
She then went on to support Sony’s decision to break the deal with Marvel, saying ‘whether it’s Sony or someone else’s, the continued evolution of Stan’s characters and his legacy deserves multiple points of view.’
And do you know what? She’s right. She’s absolutely right.
While people were celebrating when Disney bought 20th Century Fox because the X-Men and Fantastic Four were finally going to be part of their precious shared universe, I was watching in absolute horror because nobody was actually talking about the ramifications of this. Disney serves as a cautionary tale of what happens when capitalism goes unchecked. Seeing this mega-corporation consume and absorb other major studios like some Lovecraftian monster is both frightening and heartbreaking for me because the industry is going to be so much lesser for it. Less studios means less movies are going to be produced. It also means less variety in the entertainment we consume. Marvel and Disney have already done their utmost to homogenise and dumb down every MCU film to the point where most of them all feel the same, look the same and have nothing unique or creative about them whatsoever. And now we’re on the cusp of seeing that potentially happening to my most favourite superhero in the whole wide world:
Thanks to the Disney buyout, plans for X-Force and Deadpool 3 have been placed on indefinite hold with people reckoning we won’t see the Merc with the Mouth again until Phase 5 (Christ, give me strength) of the MCU so that Marvel and Disney can work out exactly how to fit him into their shared universe. Naturally the R rated nature of the character makes him difficult to integrate into the PG-13 MCU. Some have suggested toning down the character. Even David Leitch, the director of Deadpool 2, said they could make a PG-13 version of the character, which just feels like such a massive betrayal. After literally years of Ryan Reynolds, director Tim Miller, screenwriters Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick, and the fans fighting tooth and claw to get an R rated Deadpool movie green-lit, it sickens me whenever I see people discussing how a PG-13 Deadpool wouldn’t be so bad and that they just want to see him pop up in an Avengers movie.
Here’s a suggestion. If you can’t make someone like Deadpool fit into the MCU, STOP TRYING TO FUCKING DO IT! Let him be his own separate thing! I’ve got no problem with that! But no. Everything has to be connected to this idiotic shared universe, but here’s the thing, I really don’t fucking care. I couldn’t give two shits if Deadpool and Captain America were to meet in a movie. I just want to see X-Force and Deadpool 3. I just want some good fucking movies. Is that really too much to ask?
The MCU, and by extension Disney, are slowly ruining the industry with this shared universe crap and I’m getting so bloody sick of this. Not only does the premise have absolutely nothing new to offer at this point, it’s also ruining the quality of standalone movies. Instead of telling compelling stories with likeable characters, they’re just adverts for more movies to come with nothing unique to offer. Oooooh, can the Avengers stop Thanos and unkill everyone who we know aren’t really dead because they all have fucking sequels planned? Tune in next week to confirm what you already bloody know! I don’t give a fuck what you’ve got planned for me down the road in ten or fifteen movies time. Right now I’m stuck here at a service station and I’ve got no fucking sandwiches.
Off the top of my head, the only MCU films I can think of that I’ve watched in recent memory and I’ve actually enjoyed are Captain America: Civil War and Black Panther. And do you know why? Because they actually have something to say. They’re not focused on teasing the next bullshit spinoff movie. Black Panther in particular has little to no connection with the rest of the MCU. It works as its own standalone piece and has its own unique voice, commenting on how black people are viewed in society. Civil War takes elements from previous films and goes in an entirely new direction with them, exploring the faults in our beloved Avengers and questioning their role as superheroes. It offers something beyond a tease for the next film. It poses thought provoking questions about the characters and forces us to confront some harsh truths about them. But in an environment like the MCU, where everything is pre-planned by committee, there’s no room for creativity or expression, which means the few good movies get stifled. It’s impossible to continue the themes of Civil War because Homecoming exists to contradict everything. Black Panther is an amazing and impactful movie, but its impact is lessened thanks to Infinity War where we see the Wakandans reduced to little more than cannon fodder so that the real heroes can fight the baddie.
It’s frustrating to see people blindly accept and support the poisonous business model of Marvel and Disney because it’s not normal, it’s not benefiting the industry at large and it’s not even financially viable in the long term. Marvel Studios’ success revolves around one franchise. What happens when the shared universe/comic book movie bubble bursts and people eventually stop watching these films? (and it will happen because it always happens. That’s how trends work). They’re going to be up shit street, aren’t they? At least Warner Bros have Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings to fall back on. Their future isn’t entirely dependant on the success of the DCEU (thank God, some might say).
Also it’s worth noting that studios are slowly starting to move away from the shared universe format. Before the buyout, 20th Century Fox were taking risks with smaller budget, standalone movies like Deadpool and Logan. After the disaster that was Justice League, Warner Bros and DC have recently started focusing more on standalone movies to great success. Aquaman and Shazam, while still part of the DCEU, work as their own independent films. We’ve also got Joker being released in a couple of months time, which I think everyone should be paying really close attention to, because if Joker is critically and commercially successful, it could very well serve as the death knell for the concept of a shared universe. Definitive proof that you don’t need twenty movies and interconnecting stories with massive budgets to be successful. All you need is a very good idea.
Even Sony have finally learnt their lesson. They’ve taken a risk with Into The Spider-Verse and received an Academy Award for their trouble. As for Sony’s Universe Of Marvel Characters, they’re already off to a strong start with Venom. And mercifully they’re not making the same mistakes they did with the Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Ghostbusters. They’re not spending ridiculous amounts of money with unrealistic expectations of success and they’re no longer putting the cart way before the horse. They’re focusing on making a good movie first and worrying about potential expansion later. Venom may not be a masterpiece, but it’s a hell of a lot more entertaining and fulfilling than the majority of MCU films because it tells a complete story with a beginning, middle and end and it has well developed characters that we actually like and grow attached to. And if worst comes to the worst and Sony’s next film, Morbius, doesn’t do well, then they have Venom 2 to fall back on. And if that doesn’t work, they’ll still have Spider-Verse. They are no longer putting all their eggs in one basket and that’s good. That’s the smart thing to do.
Can you imagine something like Venom in the MCU? Of course not! Because Venom has its own unique tone and vision. That’s why it was so successful with audiences. Its mix of dark comedy and campy sci-fi horror made it stand out from the crowd. Marvel and Disney want us to believe that there’s only one way to make a superhero movie, when that’s simply not true. And now that Spider-Man is free to find his own unique voice again, hopefully people will begin to see just how creatively limiting and damaging the MCU truly is.
Reblog and put in the tags why you wouldn't survive in a horror movie
Ahsoka's relationship with Anakin is not as close or as healthy as Padme's as he would keep secrets from her and openly make sure she knew nothing of his past and when turned to Vader he openly tried to kill her with no remorse compared to Padme or Luke
lbr Anakin has probably had about two healthy relationships in his life and that's shmi and ahsoka
(and even that last one's dubious because he's shoved into a parental role to someone five years younger than him in the middle of a civil war 🤷🏻♀️)
Absolute shenanigans